Golden Butterfly heaven

geaux xman

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I would love to have a pair of these golden bf. No more space in the tank though.

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I had 3 in one point but the bigger one kept harrasing my other 2 to the point they stopped eating and died. I thought they were school fish and would tolerate each other but I guess I was wrong. So now I only have the big bully left but great fish none the less. And pretty hardy for a butterfly
 
I've given up on multiples of the same species when it comes to butterflies. Too much stress (on me!). Even in the 240, there are no plans for multiples at this point.
 
Even in the 240, there are no plans for multiples at this point.

Sounds like it is time for a new tank, then. :spin2: You have had the 240 up and running long enough. You have pretty much every known butterfly and so multiples are the next required step to get to butterfly nirvana. :fun5:
 
Same thing happened to me. I had 3 in QT together and the largest out of the 3 harassed the other 2. I separated the 2 that were getting beat up and thought they'd get along, but then the other one beat it up too. So now I'm down to 2 and both are separated right now in 2 different QT tanks. Like SDguy said it becomes more stressful on you! I'm not sure if I'm keeping them - but they're super healthy. I have a really aggressive French Angel that beat the crap out of my Moorish Idol when I added it to the DT (after QT of course), and chewed up a bunch of its fins so he's separated in the DT right now with egg crate. I'm wondering if the Semi's would even last in the DT. Might be selling my MI and Semi's since the wife won't let me get another 240 gal for them.
 
GB's pair up in the wild and kill each other in my 400G tank. My big 'un has been around for 5 years, but try adding another and that one's time in my tank can be measured in days. I stopped trying years ago. Now the one I have is a very, very slow grower. Moss grows faster in the desert IMO.
 
well at least from this thread i now know not to try two.

i might consider getting a single semi if any of my fish departs.
 
I've stated this before in other threads, for probably the last 7-8 years but apparently it's not being referenced...........

I you want a pair you have to buy a group(at least 4) & let them sort it out on their own. It's easier to keep 4-6 than it is 2-3.

Groups can be kept & it's best to keep them in a species tank or just a few small dither fish. They get more aggressive with more competition for food.
Pairs will swim in proximity, but groups won't............they are basically all over the tank.

I've kept 4/5 together and pairs. Sometimes you can get lucky & two random one's will pair up. I've never tried pairing up just two from the ocean.
They were two from different tanks, so they were "domesticated" for a few years & mature.

They may pair up when small, but when they mature, if they aren't male/female it won't work. They are easier to pair up when older or more mature.
When I used to get them, larger ones were common...........today they are always small & probably not mature, so I think that's why some pairs break up.

They grow very slow if not at all............they aren't going to get dinner plate size.............so they aren't out of reach for most tanks but you still have to be smart & don't crowd them in a heavy populated tank.

New ones need to be Qt'd, they are hardy to adapt & eat, but they are very suseptible to diseases & bacterial infections.

Those are my experiences over the years, but the main thing is concerning the pairing & grouping. If you aren't prepared to buy more than 2 or don't have somewhere to keep the one or two that need to be removed then don't buy them.
I would follow those pairing rules with all BF's..........buy more than two & be prepared they may break up if not mature.

I'm sure someone will post how they bought a pair & they have been great the whole time. I say you got lucky that they were compatible, but the odds are against that working ---33% success at best.
 
BigE, I recall your threads and posts. Great info by the way. I tried to see if I could pair em up with 3, but I guess it didn't work out. I was looking around for 2-3 more, but after one started harassing the other 2 I said forget it. This only lasted like this for 3-4 weeks. I have 2 left over now and I'm planning on keeping one. You are right about the fact that they are susceptible to bacterial infections since I'm battling that right now. My water quality in the QT dipped in the beginning, but now I got it under control. Doing more water changes more frequently helps with it. As long as I can keep one, I'll be good to go! We'll see...
 
I you want a pair you have to buy a group(at least 4) & let them sort it out on their own. It's easier to keep 4-6 than it is 2-3.

Groups can be kept & it's best to keep them in a species tank or just a few small dither fish. They get more aggressive with more competition for food.

Great advice... and exactly why I don't recommend the casual butterfly keeper to try and keep pairs :D
 
I tried to see if I could pair em up with 3, but I guess it didn't work out. I was looking around for 2-3 more, but after one started harassing the other 2 I said forget it. This only lasted like this for 3-4 weeks. I have 2 left over now and I'm planning

That's typical...............I had 2 pair together for quite some time. They would be fine for 6 months than the aggressive pair would get nasty. I'd put in an egg crate wall for a few months & then remove it & all was good, but it wouldn't last. It's possible the on/off aggressiveness was due to mating cycles.

My solution was to buy two more instead of removing any. This was a pair that was beating up a third at a local fish store. When I added them one of the two new ones turned on his partner within a few days.

I removed the one being harassed & the five got along great for a long time, never had any issues. The original two pair never bothered each other again.

There's is definately unique dynamics with these fish, but probably unpredictable.

A pair or group can be awesome, but if you're going to do it you better be prepared for a lot of hard work, difficulties & cost.
 
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