Good investments

[kichimark]

You guys are crazy.. :wildone:
Sometimes I think people just look for ways to argue on this site. Zoos are Zoos. They come is all kinds of different shapes, sizes & colors. Buy the ones you like, and don't buy the ones you don't like. If the ones you like are $200 per polyp, and you feel comfortable in spending that amount of money, then rock the house. Just don't be surprised that 2 years from now they are $20 per polyp. :dance:

+10000000.


Isreal.kendall - I totally agree with your views on lineage. I chuckle a lil when people throw that in.

 

[Friday Night]

"lineage" always cracks me up. I mean should i write my intials under the coral so you will feel better?

 

[jeff@zina.com]

My thoughts on the investment aspect

The problem is that the $250 per polyp frag you bought is now a common item six months later, and selling for $10 a polyp.

High-end corals are never money makers.

Jeff

 

[650-IS350]

IMO, if it's the right coloration to be an "Utter Chaos" or whatever, then call it that as a common reference. As for "lineage", what does it matter whose tank it was in? They ALL came from the ocean, that is the lineage. It's laughable to think that only one colony of any named coral existed in the ocean and that you must trace the "lineage" to some auto mechanics aquarium or something. agree , co-sign 1000%

 

[Reef Bass]

Yes, Alex, you should tat your initials on each polyp that comes from you so we are all clear about its lineage. :lol:

 

[mallorieGgator]

I don't think we should be attacking the OP here for his or her desire to raise more expensive zoas. You all want more people on this forum then stop attacking new posters. Geesh!

 

[laud]

My investment advice: Buy the coral without the "lineage" as they are a fraction of the price, take the extra money you save and put it towards something else worthwhile.

+1 - Like husbandry stuff (i.e., filtration, testing equipment, water changes and lighting, to name a few)

 

[israel.kendall]

I don't think we should be attacking the OP here for his or her desire to raise more expensive zoas. You all want more people on this forum then stop attacking new posters. Geesh!

I don't think my statement was an attack, if it came across that way I apologize. I gave the op the advice he asked for and tried to save him from getting ripped off, that's all.

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[israel.kendall]

+1 - Like husbandry stuff (i.e., filtration, testing equipment, water changes and lighting, to name a few)

Yeah, or another tank!

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[organism]

If you have a good LFS in your town then that's usually a great place to find hidden gold, otherwise I'd start with your reef club first. Attend a few meetings and you'll be surprised how many people want to share their corals with other local hobbyists.

 

[XSharkboyX]

Agreed, I could not tell you how many hidden gems I have found at my LFS.

 

[SIR PATRICK]

I want to start keeping some LE zoos/palys, but am wondering what types are less likely to melt on me and which will be good investments? I like Rastas, udder chaos, Gobstoppers, and some of the hornets. Are these ones that are worth trying or do they have a good history of melting?

I have some pink zippers, whammin watermelons, nuke greens, purple deaths, radioactive dragon eyes, pink panthers, and some mint chocolate chips that are doing well. I didn have a weak frag of bam bams that I tried to rescue but those melted away.

Drew-

I dont beleive that any of those polyps on your list are "LE" at all. Some are, or should I say can be, a bit expensive, but all, today, are very very common. The label LE is just a label- used to further increase the profitability/marketability of a polyp. Word to the wise- Dont fall for this. Take your time and find the polyps you seek, and you are bound to find all of these for a decent price, if you are dilligent with a little luck tossed in.

Rastas are great! I have kept them in a few different tank systems and have done well in each. If I wanted/liked really small polyps, I would keep this without a second thought.

Gobstoppers are great polyps also, and can be found inexpensive easily. Just take care they are gobstoppers, if that is exactly what you seek. They are very very similar to a few other polyps out there. In my experience, they preffer cleaner water than many polyps, to grow and keep color and not dwindle away and dissapear.

The hornets, as long as you read up on what they like/need to keep them happy are great choices too, although again- they are very tiny polyps also. Kinda hard to appreciate somtimes, at least in my opinion. Somtimes pics make so many of these small polyp look so good, but when you get them it blows your mind! Just a heads up, in case you didnt know. They do grow and spread VERY well in the right conditions though!

Hope this answers your question, as far as which polyps will do well, and have a lesser likelyhood of melting on you. If you are wondering about any other polyps in particular, just ask. Lumping them under the comercial term "LE" makes it hard to figure out which others you are interested in.

To further help in your original question, heres a small list of some you might not want to waste your hard earned money on, not saying they cant be kept, but that unless the tank conditions arent just right, melting is likely-

nightmares
valentines day massacre
yellow jackets

And many others that I am sure more folks will chime in about. Hope this info helps!

 

[popwin]

so far, i have great success with Hornets. they seems can adapt to different lights easily.

The only thing I have had bad luck with on 2 separate occasions were Non-Tank Raised Fruit-Loops, and one Darth Maul frag (my current darth maul colony is doing fine)

I also have Rastas, they are doing fine, and from everyone I know in my area that have Rastas they have not complained about melting. Although they are known to be fairly slow growers. Rastas "only" being ~$40 pp I would say you could easily try a 1-2 polyp frag from pretty much any seller without losing any sleep.

I am getting my first Utter Chaos frag this week, it is from a reputable seller, lineage is traced, and there is a guarantee on the polyp. I am confident there wont be a problem with it, I have also not heard of anyone whining about spending $150+ on a frag and having it melt away.

My only concern when considering a high end investment on something like Utter Chaos, LE Bowser, Bloodshots, etc. would be to only buy from reputable sellers, or do tons of research into the people you are buying from.

If they are charging $25 pp for Utter Chaos, i would be wary.

Long story short some of the high-end ones that I have had luck with and do great are: Bloodshots, Space Monsters, Captain Americas, Rastas, Any Hornet, Strawberry Wines, Chong Bong, Paradise, and more that I cant think of.

If you would like a list of some of the more reputable sellers I can let you know that as well.

 

[me_reef_geek]

if your looking to make $$ buy the biggest most common coral you can.
if it is common it means it grows good and reproduces fast.
best sellers for me are eagle eyes,orange bams,radioactive dragon eyes

I have some expensive palys but growth is a bit slow. 2 polyps turned into 6 but it took 2 years

 

[reeferdale]

I think it is great if you can but a coral you really like and successfully grow it out. If you want to frag it and make some money that is great also. The only down side to this is people tend to buy high end stuff and by the time it matures, it is either not as in demand or, the proces has come way down casue everyone else is doing the same thing. Look at the purple hornets!

 

[SIR PATRICK]

If you baught while it was high, in hopes to sell in the future for the same price-

You fell for it....