good stock list?

[palmer373]

considering setting up my 29g to try scorps. ill never know how difficult it is to raise them unless i try so why not?

will this work:
fuzzy dwarf lionfish Dendrochirus Brachypterus
cockatoo waspfish Ablabys Taenianotus
red-finned waspfish Paracentropogan Rubripinnis
fu manchu lionfish D. Biocellatus
cheekspot scorp Scorpaenodes Littoralis

is this too much? which ones should i take off if it is? are there better fish to add than the ones listed?

 

[palmer373]

what fish(es) would i have to take out if i wanted to add a trio of leaf scorpionfish Taenianotus triacanthus?

 

[LisaD]

That's a lot of fish for a 29. Especially since they all (mostly) live on the bottom. If you want that first group, I'd upgrade to at least a 40 breeder or a 55. Then I'd put the trio of leaf fish in the 29.

IMO, leaf fish are not fast or aggressive eaters, and would be outcompeted for food by the fuzzy dwarf and possibly some of the wasps. You'd have to feed them individually, not easy if you don't have them trained to frozen. I was never able to get mine to take frozen.

For the 29 only, I'd have the trio of leaf fish, the fu manchu OR the red finned waspfish and not much else, unless you put in one or two non-aggressive mid-water swimmers.

Fu manchu lions are also a challenge to wean to frozen and are not good shippers. They are probably the most delicate lionfish. If you get one from LA DD you will be okay, or if there is one in your LFS that you can watch for a while before buying.

 

[namxas]

I agree with Lisa here...that's way too much for a 29.

FWIW, we kept 2 ambons, a cockatoo, a leaf scorp, and a redfin in that size setup, but all except the cockatoo were fairly small.

S. littoralis is a great fish, but finding one will take some patience and luck. We happened upon ours by luck down in a huge place down in San Diego, and all they knew was that it was a "red scorpionfish".

 

[palmer373]

That's a lot of fish for a 29.

I agree with Lisa here...that's way too much for a 29.

thats why i thought i woudl ask lol. i reread Frank Marini's book last night and thought it was way too much lol.

im using a 29 and not a bigger tank because i already have everything (except the sand) for the 29 and its $105 here for a 30g or like $150 for a 40B

im getting tired/bored of walking past my tank saying "hi fishies how are you doing?" and then give them pellets. i want to try a challenge so i was thinking of the leaf fish and/or a fu becuase i know they arent the easiest fish to wean. i guess i can skip on the fu but i want to try weaning leaf fish.

i was reading (i think it was on LA) that the leaf fish prefer to stay in groups int he home aquarium so thats why i said 3. is that true? also namxas on your site (lionfishlair) it says that the S. Littoralis is a fast eater so would it get along and not out compete leaf fish for food?

so for the 29 how does this sound:
2 leaf fish Taenianotus triacanthus
cockatoo wasp Ablabys taenianotus
red-fin wasp Paracentropogon rubripinnis

would it be possible to add either Sebastapistes cyanostigma OR Scorpaenodes caribbaeus to that list? also what are some non-aggressive mid-water swimmers out there compatible with the scrops?

 

[namxas]

By fast, I'm referring to how it approaches the stick if it happens to be in the rockwork. cheekspots are simply quick fish. The caribbaeus is a bit more cryptic, but definitely knows what day it is and is usually out waiting, and tapping it's fins for a meal on M-W-F.

If you can score a yellow-spotted, It will do best if you give it a Poecillopora, Millepora, or Styllophora coral skeleton for it to live in. In fact, I'd keep the fish in a dedicated 10 gal, maybe with a Caracanthus sp. They do stick feed, but they really aren't a super "out and about" fish.

 

[palmer373]

hmm alright thanks for the food for thought!