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[jnb]

Re: i2ik

Re: i2ik

his has two ehiem recir - thats why his bubbles are lower - with 1 ehiem 120, like mine the bubbles are halfway - not user eror but expected according to Brian of finsreef

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6733506#post6733506 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
That is the way suppose to look .
But i saw many H/S skimmer with only half full with bubbles maybe just users error.

 

[i2ik]

jnb the last pictures i post was with one pump Aquabee, the F2001 i have on my 140G tank

 

[HappyReefer2]

Actually, this question isn't for my setup. I guess it would help if I gave the specifics. The tank is a 150g. The feed pump will be in the sump with the protein skimmer. The H&S A150-2001 is already on its way, just needed to figure out the feeding pump for it.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6733054#post6733054 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HappyReefer2
General question for H&S owners. What are several feeding pump suggestions for the A150-F2001 skimmer? Was thinking about getting the Maxi-Jet 1200, but wanted to see what else is recommended.

 

[jnb]

oh - well I guess the 2 extra inches in diameter, etc explain the difference in our bubble levels and I guess the dia of the throat leading up to the cup too. There is no way to make the bubbles be lower - it not user error as someone implied - I called Brian early on about this and he assured me this is how the 200 1260 operates - and I accepted hopefully not incorrectly - I do like it for microbubble control - bubbles are less likely to escape - it does skim nicely

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6734352#post6734352 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by i2ik
jnb the last pictures i post was with one pump Aquabee, the F2001 i have on my 140G tank

 

[jnb]

I use a ehiem 1250 with its intake right under where the overflow comes into the sump - I throttle it down from its 337 per gallon capacity and play with it from there - Brians of finsreef says something that makes about 2 times tank quantity but still put a valve on to fine tune - I figure I am running about 185 gph thru my 200 1260

a maxijet 1200 pumps what - 195? head pressure - may want something a tiny bit bigger - i like ehiems

a maxijet 1200 would defintely be in the ball park - when I was tuning mine Brian had me feeding as little as 100

bioload, feedings, wet or dry - all variables along with feeder flow to get what you want.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6734692#post6734692 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HappyReefer2
Actually, this question isn't for my setup. I guess it would help if I gave the specifics. The tank is a 150g. The feed pump will be in the sump with the protein skimmer. The H&S A150-2001 is already on its way, just needed to figure out the feeding pump for it.

 

[AcroSteve]

Sorry if I missed it, but what is the difference in the 1260 and the A1260? Which one comes on the skimmers?

 

[thedigitalimager]

Steve, the H&S "A" models are external skimmers that work outside your sump. The external skimmers require an additional feed pump, or your can T off the return from your tank. The models without the A are in sump skimmers that don't require any extra plumbing. If you'll look at the skimmers on this website, the difference is obvious.

 

[thedigitalimager]

Question for Steve

Question for Steve

Steve, do you know the species of the blue Monitpora cap in your gallery? I got one from Reefermadness a while back that looks very similar. I was told that it is M. palawensis. That frag would love an H&S skimmer (I had to make this related to the H&S thread)!:lol:

 

[i2ik]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6734692#post6734692 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HappyReefer2
Actually, this question isn't for my setup. I guess it would help if I gave the specifics. The tank is a 150g. The feed pump will be in the sump with the protein skimmer. The H&S A150-2001 is already on its way, just needed to figure out the feeding pump for it.

Its always in this case better IMO having a smaller pump than having a bigger one so you can make sure that the water that get in have more time to get "purified". I would go with the MJ600

 

[FinsReef]

If a fuller skimmer body is wanted, all you have to do is push more water thru the skimmer. IE an the A150 run about 250-300gph thru the skimmer and the skimmer will fill top to bottom, the concentration will be less and shorter contact time which imo leads to less skimmate.
It's about perception, I can add elbows to push the bubbles down in the chamber, but still it will no perform better, just look better to some people.

That's one of the great things about a recirculation skimmer design, you can adjust the air input, the water level, and the water flow all independently of each other to suit the needs of your tank or your likes.

HTH

 

[john37]

are the ratings pretty acurate? im setting up 225 w/100gal sump. and was thinking or getting a A200 external skimmer.
Also, if i get the external can i place it in sump? i know that it defeats the purpose but i might get it from a buddy and that's the model he has.

 

[john37]

The skimmer is rated for up to 300 on finsreef but mine will be heavily stocked as well. Am i pushing it?

 

[i2ik]

John37, there is no problem to keep it in the sump, as the real purpose of the external skimmers such as the H&S is to recirculate the water, which the in sump H&S dont have.
You will be ok with the 1 pump Eheim for your tank.

 

[cecilturtle]

John,

For your size tank I would look at the A200 with 2 eheim pumps. Yes you can run an external in sump but IMO it works better externally. You can visually inspect and clean the skimmer better if it's external...not to mention the sump is easier to siphon. It is also a more flexible design but if space is a problem then to answer your question, you will not lose performance putting an external in sump.

I see you have a BB tank. The one area that H&S skimmers differ greatly is in this newer method of heavy wet skimming. I do not think they work as efficiently as a Beckett for this purpose. For starters, the cup can easily fill making a mess. The amount of air these things produce caused my skimmer to percolate wet foam everywhere once the cup was full. For this reason I run my H&S external slightly on the wet side and have a EuroReef RS5-3 internal running the same. It is amazing how well these two skimmers compliment each other....

 

[ReefSalt]

Like FinsReef mentioned you can have the apperance of having a full chamber.With my skimmer I can have it fill the entire chamber by reducing the amount of air which will show fine bubbles down to the return,just like the other popular brand which most people who own set there valves at the 2 O`clock position.

In the pic below my skimmer air intake is wide open and looks like a thick white cloud.

And the pic below is my tank if you take a look the water clarity is just impecable,considering I feed 6 times day,and give a seperate feeding for the other animals like Phyto,cyclops and coral liquid.

 

[thedigitalimager]

Reefsalt, it's no wonder your water is so clear. Isn't the A300-3x1260 rated for up to 1000 gallons. That's a lot of skimmer for a 120 gal tank!

 

[thedigitalimager]

Reefsalt, BTW your tank is awesome! What's the green coral to the right of the purple tang? Is that a montipora?

 

[Pilot Fish]

I just got my H&S 200 2x1260 from Finn's Reef and can't wait to set it up. The skimmer looks great and Brian at Finn's Reef has great costumer service. Hopefully I will have the tank running by next weekend.

 

[Fliger]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6737355#post6737355 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ReefSalt
Like FinsReef mentioned you can have the apperance of having a full chamber.With my skimmer I can have it fill the entire chamber by reducing the amount of air which will show fine bubbles down to the return,just like the other popular brand which most people who own set there valves at the 2 O`clock position.

"Appearance" being the key word. I have run the A300, A110 and the Deltec 702 with the taps turned down (restricting air and appearing more full) and it did not skim any better. The chamber looks better in pictures in cyberspace but it doesn't skim any differently. If fact I've found that wide open is better for me on both brands.

Well I just got the A200 1x1260 ordered. I had it cut down so it will fit underneath the short stand of my new tank. The entire skimmer should be ~25" tall. Apparently it will be ready in just a few weeks, not bad for a custom model.

 

[BLockamon]

I didn't know that you could get an H&S cut down. I'm looking at the A150-F2001, but my stand has exactly 26" of room (so I'd have to remote mount it). Did you order the skimmer through Finsreef? If you don't mind me asking, what was the price premium for a custom order?