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Well i can join the club now. Just recieved my a150 this morning from aquarium obsessed. I wont have it setup for a few months though. Also, i just plugged in the pump earlier and it seemed loud?? I am not sure if it is supposed to be that way or not, as this is my first time dealing with a P.S.

Thanks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9848304#post9848304 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by heyfredyourhat
Well i can join the club now. Just recieved my a150 this morning from aquarium obsessed. I wont have it setup for a few months though. Also, i just plugged in the pump earlier and it seemed loud?? I am not sure if it is supposed to be that way or not, as this is my first time dealing with a P.S.

Thanks.
My pump isn't loud at all, but then level of noise is very subjective. The photo that I included in the above post is my A150 only 8 days old, so still just breaking in, but it almost looks like it broke in on the 3rd or 4th day already, after I dump the collection cup the first time which was on the 2nd day.

I noticed you asking about general instructions on how to setup your new A150, I found this thread really helpful with a lot of details on how to adjust your skimmer for optimal skimming. The thread describes how to adjust the flowthrough rate of the tank water passing through the skimmer, bubble breaking level within the skimmer, air bubble size and maximum air draw adjustments. I used this info from the thread "My New A200-1260" in the H&S/Fins Reef sponsored forum.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7303604#post7303604 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by UCanDoIt
In response to several PMs about water level and bubble breaking level, I thought it best that I copy in a previous post that I did about the same subject. Sorry about the Deltec photo as I own both and this was readily available.

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7300811#post7300811 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by UCanDoIt

I have spent many many hours talking to the my Aquarium tech (who maintains all my tanks) about plumbing and he's tried it all, made his share of mistakes, and the way he has my tank set up works great.

There are 3 controls on the skimmer:
1. Input controlled by gravity feed from overflow with ball valve "or" a feed pump with the correct rate
2. Output controlled by wedgepipe at skimmer's exhaust drain
3. Air flow controlled by air clamp

To set your skimmer correctly (as I am told):

1. first you must be sure the water flow through rate is matched to your skimmer. most of the time, for gravity feed, one would need to tailor the rate back by ball valve in control #1 as the water turnover rate on your system is usually much stronger than your skimmer can handle. if not tailored back to the correct flow through rate, there will be too much turbulance within the skimmer and performance will be greatly affected. or you can feed skimmer with a correctly rated pump or powerhead

2. next, with the water flow through rate adjusted correctly, the water level within the skimmer must be at the right level for the skimmer to perform optimally. water level should start right at the bottom edge of the bayonet connection between the collection cup and skimmer body. if the water level is too low, tailor back the outflow from the skimmer drain with the wedgepipe and it will raise the water level within the skimmer body. again, use the wedgepipe on the output, which is control #2, and be sure the drain does not terminate underwater in the sump. if the exhaust terminates underwater, the skimmer does not function well for H&S skimmers. on my setup, I have a 90 elbow that directs the water down into the sump, but the end of the pipe is about 1/2" above the sump water level. to quiet & reduce splashing, you can put a 45 elbow at the end of the drain pipe

3. tighten the air clamp for maximum foaming with control #3. on both my Deltec and H&S skimmers, it is tailored back approximately 1/4 - 1/3 which gives me the finest bubbles and good foaming head. on some skimmers, a fully open air tube could possibly be your best performance as every skimmer is different

once your skimmer is broken in and foaming, adjust wedgepipe to raise the water and bubble breaking level for wetter skimming and lower for drier skimming. HTH
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7303934#post7303934 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by UCanDoIt
Filling a 1g milk jug from the T off the drain of your skimmer:

150gph takes approximately 24secs to fill 1g
175gph takes approximately 21secs to fill 1g
200gph takes approximately 18secs to fill 1g
225gph takes approximately 16secs to fill 1g
250gph takes approximately 14secs to fill 1g
275gph takes approximately 13secs to fill 1g
300gph takes approximately 12secs to fill 1g
325gph takes approximately 11secs to fill 1g
350gph takes approximately 10secs to fill 1g

HTH. When you measure off the drain pipe, use the ball valve that you installed before the skimmer to control and adjust waterflow through the skimmer and then to the 1g milk jug.
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right on thanks. On a side note, i did a wet run with "salt" water, and after about 5 minutes the pump has really quieted down. I guess it really just need to be worked!
 
Another thing about the a150, and again i am only running with "salt" water, not installed into tank yet. Is there supposed to be a full column of bubbles?? I can only get it to bubble at about one inch below the output. Is this normal, or because i am not using it with real salt water??
 
The bubbles in my new A150 goes down about an inch below the top support band, so only the top 1/2 of the skimmer is full of bubbles. Many have mentioned that H&S is very conservative and makes sure that not even a single micro-bubble will ever return to the sump. What I've notice on my new H&S compared to the many ER units that I used earlier (with a full column of bubbles), the H&S is performing a lot better, so there has to be something about what the H&S engineers have figured out in order to balance the combination of pump vs height & diameter of the skimmer body. I am 5 days into my 2nd week owning this new skimmer, so supposedly not even broken in yet, and I am getting a full collection cup of same dark, very stinky skimmate again. I'm hoping that this is just some catchup going on and that it will slow down after a few weeks.
 
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I agree with Reef Sponger, although it would be more satisfying to see the whole column filled with bubbles, the H&S are very effective skimmers. I replaced my 12 inch dia ER with a 250A H&S (10 inch dia), and to my surprise, it outskims the ER by far. My tank looks better every day since I put the H&S on it. Appearances are deceiving, as when I measured air input, the H&S is pulling more than twice what the ER did. I should add, I was pleased with the ER when I had it, and only replaced it because of a leak.
Mike
 
Hey Mimbler1, glad your A250 is doing great. I still believe that ER skimmers is a good buy for the money as I've used my share of them. But I was just as surprised as you are that my 6" H&S outperformed my 8" ER. My pump started failing on my ER is why I looked at a switch instead of replacing the pump. I was going to buy the 8" H&S A200, but the dealer I bought it from, taught me out of it and said I will be surprised at the A150. He was right!
 
I am offically in the club! Here's my baby..........
It is a custom short 26.5" with exhaust union mod, so don't have to deal with teflon tape. This is a beauty indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9933053#post9933053 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jeffreylam1132
I am offically in the club! Here's my baby..........
It is a custom short 26.5" with exhaust union mod, so don't have to deal with teflon tape. This is a beauty indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice. Is that a 200 or 250?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9933425#post9933425 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wolfpack
Nice. Is that a 200 or 250?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9933136#post9933136 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jeffreylam1132
Forgot to mention, it's a A200-1260.

:D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9933482#post9933482 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jeffreylam1132
Hey Mike, do you have any pic of your skimmer in action?

I'll get one for you... gimmie 5 mins.
 
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