H&S Skimmer Club

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I know that this is a post from the Bubblemaster thread, but it really hits the nail on the head. The only comment that is off is what he posted on Ed at KMA Int'l. He was recommending the BM200 because there wasn't a smaller size at that time, but Ed personally retuned down each BM200 for smaller tanks so they wouldn't experienced SOSS.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10716867#post10716867 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Freds
Ed is on smack to recommend a BM 200 for a 90 gallon tank. I think it was on zeo but it may have been a European forum, Oliver stated that people should NOT be buying oversized BMs for their tanks. I ran a BM 200 on a Bare bottom heavy stocked, heavy fed 90 and it was WAY too big a skimmer. It pulled out tar for the first two weeks and then nothing (symptom of too big a skimmer syndrome). It would pull out nasty skimmate after I fed but then go back to idle until more food was given.
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A SOSS skimmer collects what it can and stops for awhile. During the downtime, organics are building up but the SOSS skimmer cannot form a good foamhead to remove. The next size down, which is properly rated for the tank or just slightly oversized, can and will keep collecting what is building up as it can form the foamhead to remove the organics. Ed has told me how many hobbyists have disagreed with him over the years, but he used so many different skimmers within each line and on different size tanks with the same skimmer, he knows. He's testing the same exact skimmer on 3 different tanks right now. :lol:
 
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:lol: I think I have SOSS! I purchased the A250 as I was combining two systems. After ordering, I decided to keep the systems separate, so now I have it on about 320 gallons. It just means I can get a larger tank and not have to purchase another skimmer!
 
Slightly oversized unless your biload is very light. The next size down is the A200-3xF2001, but my preference is really the 2x Eheims. If you go down one more size to A200-1260, it's too small for 320g total water volume. I guess you could have went with the 3x Aquabee pumps, might do better currently.
 
Its really cool to see this thread still going. But what it really needs is...MORE PICTURES! Preferably the kind that would make you want to puke if you had smell-o-vision...

FWIW, my H&S is still going strong. No problems other than my original feed pump (a MJ powerhead) died awhile back and had to be replaced. I've been pretty negligent and only took the skimmer out and cleaned it thoroughly once..though it is due for another cleaning since I have noticed some reduction in bubbles lately (nothing a little vinegar won't fix).
 
I don't know if I posted these pix, they are a couple months old. This is my custom short - about 24" tall. It is amazing, but I decided to go back to the old school 2x1260 A200 with the 8" body. Of all the skimmers I've used, it seemed to accumulate skimmate the fastest. I think its in customs, can't wait! I owned the exact skimmer a few years ago, and sold it to Skippyreef a couple years back. Regretted it ever since! :)

When I first set it up

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A few days worth of pooo

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These H&S skimmers look great!

I'm setting up a new 50G tank and 10G sump and have very little sump space to work with (9-1/2" x 12"). I was looking at the 90-F1000 skimmer. Does anyone know anything about these skimmers? Anybody used one? What kind of pump do they use?

Would I be better off saving the money and getting an ER RS-80 for $100 less?

Thanks for any info!

Greg
 
honestly the first time i even saw the 90 was a few weeks ago on finsreef.com. I think it may be brand spanking new.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10903483#post10903483 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Buddyboy
These H&S skimmers look great!

I'm setting up a new 50G tank and 10G sump and have very little sump space to work with (9-1/2" x 12"). I was looking at the 90-F1000 skimmer. Does anyone know anything about these skimmers? Anybody used one? What kind of pump do they use?

Would I be better off saving the money and getting an ER RS-80 for $100 less?

Thanks for any info!

Greg

In looking at the H&S skimmer line and the pumps being used. I would recommend the A110 if you can fit it into your sump. Recirculating skimmers have so much better reviews than non-recirculating. If space is really limited, the 90-F1000 should be good if it follows the same quality as the reputation of the other skimmers in the line.
 
Well, Kim, you wouldn't technically need to fir the A110 in your sump at all. it can be put on side of your stand or on side of your sump etc. The choices are endless!
 
I just picked up an A150-F2001 from someone on RC and I love it... :D I already had an A200-1260... I'll try and get some pics later...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10903868#post10903868 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Conceyted
Well, Kim, you wouldn't technically need to fir the A110 in your sump at all. it can be put on side of your stand or on side of your sump etc. The choices are endless!

dah. you're right.
 
Hi everyone,

I posted some questions to Eric of FinsReef at the H&S forum as part of my ongoing research / decision process on which H&S skimmer to get for my 70 gal. FOWLR including 15 gal. sump. The 2 choices are the insump 110- f2000 or the A110. I like that the 110 -f2000 doesnt require any plumbing, but it also seems that most every review I come across says that the A110 and recircs in general will outperform the insump models. The recircs are also suppose to require less adjustments and are more plug and play than the insump models. However, Eric has assured me that the 110-f2000 which is rated for up to 100 gal. would be more than enough to handle my system. Here is my post at the H&S forum:

Still trying to decide which skimmer to get. Can you tell me how much clearance I would need to remove the collection cup on the A110. I have 24" H of cabinet space for the skimmer so this would leave me with about 1.5" of clearance since the A110 is 22.5"H. I probably would prefer to have the A110 located in my sump in the event of an overflow or leaking. The section of the sump that would house the A100 has dimensions of
16"L x 10" W. The other thing is I will also have my return pump, a Mag 7 in this section along with the skimmer. I dont know if this arrangement would work and if I have enough space for everything in the sump. Would the Mag 7 produce enough GPH for the A110 to get optimal performance or would I need more flow. Ofcourse if 1.5" clearance is not enough to remove the collection cup on the A110 then all the questions I have are really moot. Thanks again for your excellent assistance. I will definitely buy one of these skimmers in the next couple of days. I hope you wont be out of stock by the time I decide to make a purchase. : )

Thanks,

Gary
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10964675#post10964675 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Capt. Nemo
Can you tell me how much clearance I would need to remove the collection cup on the A110. I probably would prefer to have the A110 located in my sump in the event of an overflow or leaking. The section of the sump has dimensions of 16"L x 10" W. The other thing is I will also have my return pump, a Mag 7 in this section along with the skimmer. I dont know if this arrangement would work and if I have enough space for everything in the sump. Would the Mag 7 produce enough GPH for the A110 to get optimal performance or would I need more flow.
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First, you only need 1/2" clearance to remove the cup. 1.5" is very generous. Second, you will have problems with the in sump 110 model if you put into the same chamber as the return pump, unless you install a good top off unit. The flucuation in sump waterlevel will disturb the performance of the 110. I would highly recommend the A110 as it is immune to sump water level changes because it is a recirculating skimmer that is self-contained. I would agree with you that it is great to put into the sump and this is how I installed my A150, next model bigger. The Mag7 isn't very big, you can easily slip in the same compartment, somewhere. The Mag7 is more than enough. You only need about 100gph feeding the skimmer, so the rest can be T-off. This is assuming you are feeding your skimmer from the overflow. If not, you need a separate pump to feed the A110, something like a Maxijet600. HTH

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10965220#post10965220 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spooda420
I am a new proud owner of the H&S 250

So far this is a great skimmer.
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:lol: Is is he best you've bought to date? J/K, give it some time and the mess it collects will surprise you.
 
I used to suffer from SOSS with my A300 , and I have to say that this skimmer is a beast removed docs well but when it has completly striped the water ,it would stop due to exactly the reasons mentioned before by others.

SO...I downgraded to a H&S A250, I could of went with a A200-2X1260 but decided to give there new 250 series a try.constant dark skimming less buildup in the neck ect,

When it comes to H&S there ratings are quite good.I would suggest that when purchasing a H&S dont SUPER SIZE IT, get whats quoted for your tank because they really are great performers.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10966310#post10966310 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ReefSalt
I used to suffer from SOSS with my A300 , and I have to say that this skimmer is a beast removed docs well but when it has completly striped the water ,it would stop due to exactly the reasons mentioned before by others.

SO...I downgraded to a H&S A250, I could of went with a A200-2X1260 but decided to give there new 250 series a try.constant dark skimming less buildup in the neck ect,

When it comes to H&S there ratings are quite good.I would suggest that when purchasing a H&S dont SUPER SIZE IT, get whats quoted for your tank because they really are great performers.
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I believe this is true of ALL high performance skimmers, SOSS s u c k s! Many have warned in other forums and here in the general equipment threads not to get pulled into SOSS by those who keep suggesting to buy the biggest that you can afford for your system and not worry about sizing. Yes, I agree, sizing is definitely important.

What I've noticed is that when manufacturers overrated their skimmers, you can oversize and still not experience SOSS, especially on those skimmers that don't perform well to begin with.
 
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