Hawaiian Cleaner Wrasse being too aggressive

Karthalin

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Looking to see if anyone else has experienced any other similar situations with this particular fish.

It's a Hawaiian Cleaner Wrasse. It was net caught in July and shipped to the LFS the next day (Seattle area). I showed up the day it arrived and watched him in the tank for the next 3 weeks to see if he would adapt to prepared foods. To my surprise he immediately took to mysis shrimp and sea weed, both prepared frozen vegetarian cubes and seaweed squares in a clip.

I picked him up and brought him to my tank, it's a 90 gallon corner tank with a 20 gallon sump (see my sig for more details on the tank). It's been about 3 months since I got him and now he is being incredibly aggressive to the two smaller fish in the tank. The first small fish is a neon goby who was in the tank before the cleaner. the other fish is a small flame hawk that was just introduced this past weekend.

The Wrasse chases both fish into the rock crevices every time he catches sight of either one, whether I am feeding or not. It's worse when I feed, it's almost as if the Wrasse hunts around first to clear them both out before he starts gobbling up the food. I can see no marks on either fish, but the flame hawk is not coming out to eat and the Goby only comes out when some food gets deposited on the sand near one of his cave holes he frequents.

The other tank mates are a Blue Tang, a File Fish, a Red Scooter Blenny, a Yellow Tang and an Orchid Dotty back. I am terrible with the scientific names so I use what I believe to be the more common names here.

I dont think its a chemical imbalance, but here are my tank stats anyway:

pH: 8.0 (been a steady 8.2 since the day the tank went up, looking into
why it dropped just recently)
Phosphate: 1 mg/L
Ammonia: .2 mg/L
Nitrite: .2 mg/L
Nitrate: 10 mg/L
Calcium: 400 ppm
Salinity - 1.023
 
This is a common occurrence with cleaner wrasses in small tanks. I don't see it getting any better, and will just add even more stress to the fish that already stressed (( tank is too small for the "blue" tang, P. hepatus )).


It turns out that you were warned about this, 2 months ago....but choose to ignore it.

That is a very difficult question to answer. I personally will never keep a cleaner wrasse again -- couple of reasons; poor track record, their habit of annoying the heck out of fish in averaged sized tanks, and most importantly - how important of a role they have on the wild.

As for the hepatus tang, again that is difficult to answer. I have tried them before -- the ex-wife bought me one, so had to have been 10+ years ago, in a 4 foot tank -- and after 6 months it was no longer enjoyable. Even with plenty of flow, it would still pace back and forth. It was at that point I sold it and decided to do my best to get fish that give live out their life in my current tank. I am not a fan of "renting" a fish and hope to sell it back when the tank can no longer hold it. Besides becoming attached to my fish, it is difficult to find a suitable tank.
 
In small tanks they pester the hell out of every fish in the tank. This will literally drive fish insane and they will dive. if you have anthias or small wrasses such as fairies/flashers cleaners should never be used.

In your situation, the cleaner is trying to clean the other fish, but they do not want him too. It is their nature, and they will not stop trying to clean, ever!! You can either see if the fish will deal with it, or you can yank him.

Cleaners should be in a huge tank with many many big fish to thrive. If not, they will either die from malnutrition, or bug everything else to death.
 
In small tanks they pester the hell out of every fish in the tank. This will literally drive fish insane and they will dive. if you have anthias or small wrasses such as fairies/flashers cleaners should never be used.

In your situation, the cleaner is trying to clean the other fish, but they do not want him too. It is their nature, and they will not stop trying to clean, ever!! You can either see if the fish will deal with it, or you can yank him.

Cleaners should be in a huge tank with many many big fish to thrive. If not, they will either die from malnutrition, or bug everything else to death.

I agree with most of this, although I'm no expert but have had my blue streak cleaner wrasse in my 120 gallon tank for almost 2 years now. I have a tank full of wrasses (3 different macropharyngodon, 3 halicheores, and 1 cirrhilabrus so it is possible for them all to coexist. The cleaner will try to "clean" new fish and they don't typically care for it at first, but in my experience it will subside. He is quite the little pest at first so I definitely see what you guys are saying.
 
This is the second time getting a cleaner wrasse and the first one didn't last more than 2 days. This one is 2.5" Labroides bicolor from Bali and all the fishes allow it to clean without any problem except for the semilarvatus where I saw the wrasse got chased by the butterfly twice.

I thought it was a very mild nip but the butterfly didn't like it at all
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I'll take him off your hands. My tangs won't mind. I'm looking for a Hawaiian cleaner wrasse that eats.
 
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