Help! Fox face dying!!!

[Phishguy]

Do you have power heads in the tank? Can't see any in the pic

~Jon~

 

[FishWrangler]

nitrates?

I wasn't testing (actually my daughter) for them correctly and mine were wayyyy too high...and (I think) it lead to a couple of my newer fish biting the dust...

I've read and been told my tank is way too small for 1 anemone, how many do you have???

 

[Aperture.pcs]

Rodi?

~Jon~

Just ro no di

Nitrite

 

[FishWrangler]

with such a huge bio load are you running a protein skimmer or doing weekly water changes? or both....

 

[Aperture.pcs]

Nitrate

 

[FishWrangler]

bingo.....

 

[Aperture.pcs]

Gonna move everything to qt

 

[Aperture.pcs]

What to do?

 

[FishWrangler]

Personally, I did massive water changes and started using purigen in my media rack.....and really cut down on my feeding. My nitrate is still 20ppm or so and my goal is under 10ppm....

I did 25% water changes 3 days in a row to get a handle on it....

I think you need to find a new home or a foster home for a few (all really) of those anemones until you have a larger tank running.

 

[Surgical]

It looks like your tank isnt cycled. See if you can give your fish to someone to babysit, otherwise you are gonna be doing big daily water changes, which is gonna stress everything out even more. You still have nitrites and nitrates are thru the roof, youve got a ways to go...

 

[muppet]

Your parameters are out of control. You should have a zero nitrite reading in a stable tank. Did you cycle this tank?

Your bioload is way too high for such a small tank. Even without all the water issues, 6 clowns in a 30g is a recipe for disaster, especially when they're from disparate species. The other clowns may have attacked him.

If you're going to do a QT, you need to test the water daily and most likely do daily large volume water changes. If you treat with medication you will have to readjust the medication levels (hopefully with a test!!!) when you dilute them with water changes.

Are all of those nems under the power compact lights you posted before?

Above all slow down slow down slow down.

 

[Phishguy]

Don't panic... Just start doing daily 5g water changes.. When you panic, it kills fish.. I would also get a better skimmer, better water flow and trade a few of those clowns for 1 fish..

~Jon~

 

[keithhays]

It looks like either he is so far gone there is a massive amount of necrosis or hypermelanization which could be turbellarian infection caused by a type of worm related to trematodes also known as black ich.

There are probably better pieces on this, but this seems to be fairly concise:

"
Black Ich

Black Ich disease appears as small black spots distributed over the fish's body. The spots are about half the size of a pinhead or smaller. They are primarily found on the body and are are especially easy to see on light-colored body areas or on the transparent areas of the fins. Affected fish will scratch on the bottom or other aquarium objects. Other signs of the disease include lethargy, development of a pale body color, and lack of appetite. The disease is caused by a small worm known as a tubellarian. After parasitizing a fish, the worms develop on the fish's skin and gills and acquire dark pigmentation. They are freely mobile and will tend to move over the surface of the fish. After five or six days depending on the environmental conditions, they drop to the bottom of the aquarium. There they mature, with the development of the young worms within their body. Once the development of the young is complete, the adult worms burst, releasing the free swimming young that infest new host fish. The worms can be controlled with various commercially available medications. Formalin based products or those containing organophosphate compounds such as trichlorfon appear to be the best medications. In addition to the use of medications, any excessive buildup or organic material and debris should be siphoned from the aquarium several times during treatment. Since the young worms develop on the aquarium bottom, the removal of debris will aid in controlling the disease by reducing their numbers."
Taken from the Dr Aqua site.

I hate to be the one to say this, but nitrate, even in the high hundreds, does not kill fish. Your fish have a disease which most likely the one I told you it was.
Either treat the fish, or watch them die, but don't waste time worrying about nitrates.

 

[keithhays]

I can assure you your corals didn't bring anything in to your tank.. Have you tested your water? What are your params? Your tank is only a few months old right? What kind of equipment are you using?

~Jon~

It is very likely that both the fish and the corals and the liquid that came with them brought the disease into the tank. Just because coral is not susceptible to the disease does not mean they cannot transport the disease.

 

[Phishguy]

Muppet is right.. You have to slow down a bit.. You have a huge bio load, a bad mix of fish, and it doesn't look like you have much in the way of water movement... While I agree that nitrates within reasonable levels are ok, yours appear off the chart..nitrites are more toxic than nitrates.. All the noted issues combined create a horrible environment and a recipe for disaster..

~Jon~

 

[mtc1966]

also that a lot of nems in a 30g tank and I am not sure if those marine land lights a strong enough to support them long term

 

[Phishguy]

It is very likely that both the fish and the corals and the liquid that came with them brought the disease into the tank. Just because coral is not susceptible to the disease does not mean they cannot transport the disease.

My point wasn't that it can't happen, but that it was highly unlikely that was the problem in this case. Corals came from experience hobbyists who probably don't have a tank of dead fish.. I as addressing the problem in this case and not a rule in general..

~Jon~

 

[Blitzie]

I would think about pulling the nem's from the tank. Once they start to die they will pollute the water even more.
Anemones should only be put in tanks that are well established and stable. Joe Wallace I believe just had one die and basically wiped the entire tank out.

Muppet is correct, Take a deep breath and slow down a little

 

[Phishguy]

May be a dumb question, but when you top off, are you using saltwater? Or just Rodi?

~Jon~

 

[keithhays]

My point wasn't that it can't happen, but that it was highly unlikely that was the problem in this case. Corals came from experience hobbyists who probably don't have a tank of dead fish.. I as addressing the problem in this case and not a rule in general..

~Jon~

Fair enough, and a major distinction to make, but very soon it will make no difference since Black ich despite its name kills quickly compared to actual cryptocaryon and the whole conversation about cleanliness of the tank which in other times would be pertinent has absolutely nothing to do with the OPs current situation.