as far as my octo great, as far as my search for a cuttle not so great, the closest i have come so far is the call i made to austinaquariums, the guy ws supposed to get back to me but its been a little while and he has not called, i tried a follow up e-mail but i never got a response, im assuming this means they are not interested in shipping it to me, the anchofish web site looks promising but i have never gotten response to my e-mails and their 877 number is not a valid one