help me pick my new camera
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I'm biased towards canon, so I'd have to say the xt.
That's the dslr I started out with, then several months ago bought a 30d and a G9 as a point and shoot, but I am still hanging onto my xt.
It has somewhere around 30,000 actuations on the shutter, and it's still going strong.
That's the dslr I started out with, then several months ago bought a 30d and a G9 as a point and shoot, but I am still hanging onto my xt.
It has somewhere around 30,000 actuations on the shutter, and it's still going strong.
latazyo
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Im biased to the D40, but that's what I use so take that for what its worth
if I were getting a camera again I would start with the D80 b/c in the long run it will be cheaper due to more cheap lenses being available for it compared to the D40
you have to go to a camera store and handle these cameras, the grip is very important and was an instant deal killer on the rebel for me, the nikon was more comfortable in hand...for you it may be opposite
if I were getting a camera again I would start with the D80 b/c in the long run it will be cheaper due to more cheap lenses being available for it compared to the D40
you have to go to a camera store and handle these cameras, the grip is very important and was an instant deal killer on the rebel for me, the nikon was more comfortable in hand...for you it may be opposite
TitusvileSurfer
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I'm going to give it to you straight.
Canon owners (bwest and I) will say Xt. Nikon owners (latazyo) will say D40. Olympus owners (none yet but they have an interesting and unique system all their own) will say Olympus.
You see, this is a very expensive hobby like reef keeping. Just like a reef, to do it right you’re looking at thousands of dollars. In effect, camera brands are something of a religion.
When we researched and bought our own cameras, for one reason or another the other brands were ruled out and you know what we chose. So in our heads, our camera is the best camera.
I also had Pentax, Sony, and a few others on my original list. Eventually I narrowed my choices down to Canon, Nikon, and Sony. Each individual BRAND has multiple (more than one per brand) dedicated forums rivaling ReefCentral itself in size.
This is my favorite Canon forum, though one of many: (am I allowed to do this?)
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/
On ReefCentral everyone always says "boy I wish I read these forums BEFORE I setup my first tank". Well guess what? "Boy I wish I read these forums BEFORE I setup my first camera" is a pretty common one in those forums as well. Join a Canon, Nikon, and Olympus forum. Browse each for a month+ and then decide which you want. Be smart about it. This is not just a camera your buying, this is a very major purchase with lenses, flashes, grips, more cameras, tripods, tripod heads, tripod mounting brackets, lens filters, computer programs (photo shop, noise ninja, ect., ect.), heck you'll probably spend $100-$300 just for a backpack to carry stuff in.
A DSLR camera is just an empty reef tank. Yes it is expensive but you still need salt water, skimmers, pumps, lights, testing strips, fish, a quarantine tank for those fish, a clean up crew, live rock, corals, ect. ect. ect. A Canon Xt or Nikon D40 are just empty reef tanks...and small 20 gallons at that.
You are making a big decision here. The Company you pick will likely be your company for life (as much of the $1000's you spend will only work with Canon OR Nikon OR Olympus).
Please Please Please think this process out. If you have to ask us what DSLR you should buy, you are not ready to buy a DSLR.
Canon owners (bwest and I) will say Xt. Nikon owners (latazyo) will say D40. Olympus owners (none yet but they have an interesting and unique system all their own) will say Olympus.
You see, this is a very expensive hobby like reef keeping. Just like a reef, to do it right you’re looking at thousands of dollars. In effect, camera brands are something of a religion.
When we researched and bought our own cameras, for one reason or another the other brands were ruled out and you know what we chose. So in our heads, our camera is the best camera.
I also had Pentax, Sony, and a few others on my original list. Eventually I narrowed my choices down to Canon, Nikon, and Sony. Each individual BRAND has multiple (more than one per brand) dedicated forums rivaling ReefCentral itself in size.
This is my favorite Canon forum, though one of many: (am I allowed to do this?)
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/
On ReefCentral everyone always says "boy I wish I read these forums BEFORE I setup my first tank". Well guess what? "Boy I wish I read these forums BEFORE I setup my first camera" is a pretty common one in those forums as well. Join a Canon, Nikon, and Olympus forum. Browse each for a month+ and then decide which you want. Be smart about it. This is not just a camera your buying, this is a very major purchase with lenses, flashes, grips, more cameras, tripods, tripod heads, tripod mounting brackets, lens filters, computer programs (photo shop, noise ninja, ect., ect.), heck you'll probably spend $100-$300 just for a backpack to carry stuff in.
A DSLR camera is just an empty reef tank. Yes it is expensive but you still need salt water, skimmers, pumps, lights, testing strips, fish, a quarantine tank for those fish, a clean up crew, live rock, corals, ect. ect. ect. A Canon Xt or Nikon D40 are just empty reef tanks...and small 20 gallons at that.
You are making a big decision here. The Company you pick will likely be your company for life (as much of the $1000's you spend will only work with Canon OR Nikon OR Olympus).
Please Please Please think this process out. If you have to ask us what DSLR you should buy, you are not ready to buy a DSLR.
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TriggerHappyDude
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Hey all,
I'm just going to add a little bit here, as I asked a very similar question to a photographer on here and I got this as an answer from him...the question was about which to go with Canon or Nikon...I'm going Nikon...D40 or D80.
Remember its just an opinion...not mine, I'm still shopping!
I'm just going to add a little bit here, as I asked a very similar question to a photographer on here and I got this as an answer from him...the question was about which to go with Canon or Nikon...I'm going Nikon...D40 or D80.
Remember its just an opinion...not mine, I'm still shopping!
TitusvileSurfer
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Its quotes like that which just set me off. I agree to get the camera your friends have so you can trade equipment...but don't you dare go and say
"Nikon, on the other hand, only has super nice ones, and are all considered "L". Canon is really huge on consumers and playing with the market, mass production etc. Nikon is more for build quality and optics."
That is just pathetic. You don't think Nikon mass produces their equipment?!?!?!?! Canon has the best line of optics in the world. Some of the other equipment Nikon and others may have the upper hand, but nobody makes a better lens. I wan't you to turn on your TV right now and catch a current NBA game...any game will do. Now take a careful look at the sidelines (your looking at the professional photographers). I bet 9/10 (but probably 10/10) are using Canon. Now turn on the news and wait for a press release at the white house...see how every lens has a red ring around it...Canon "L".
Nikon is a great camera, but don't go saying Canon is a cheap mass-produced line. People who make money making pictures make money with Canon. That is a well documented fact, and you can take it to the bank.
"Nikon, on the other hand, only has super nice ones, and are all considered "L". Canon is really huge on consumers and playing with the market, mass production etc. Nikon is more for build quality and optics."
That is just pathetic. You don't think Nikon mass produces their equipment?!?!?!?! Canon has the best line of optics in the world. Some of the other equipment Nikon and others may have the upper hand, but nobody makes a better lens. I wan't you to turn on your TV right now and catch a current NBA game...any game will do. Now take a careful look at the sidelines (your looking at the professional photographers). I bet 9/10 (but probably 10/10) are using Canon. Now turn on the news and wait for a press release at the white house...see how every lens has a red ring around it...Canon "L".
Nikon is a great camera, but don't go saying Canon is a cheap mass-produced line. People who make money making pictures make money with Canon. That is a well documented fact, and you can take it to the bank.
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TriggerHappyDude
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Serenity Now...say it...its someones OPINION, that doesn't obviously set well with you, but they are entitled to one.
I just wanted to share.
I just wanted to share.
:lol: The D3 competes really strongly against the Canon 5D, and in many respects surpasses it. Not bad since the 5D is 3 years old. The D3 isn't even in the same class as the 1DMKIII and 1DsMKIII
His first sentence "Nikon D3 is currently the best camera out there at that level, far surpassing any Canon." is pretty decent advice. The rest is just biased opinion.
Buy what feels best in your hand.
TitusvileSurfer
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Nikon has some nice lenses. Most are better than Canon's worst, but nothing they make competes with Canon's best. So I don't like quotes trying to steer someone in one directing saying "All Nikons lenses are considered Canon L" when none of them are. It is Nikon's low-budget lenses that beat Canon's low-budget lenses. Canon's high-budget lenses have no peers. I spent 6 months studying Canon, Nikon, and Sony forums every night before I bought my setup. Lenses are the most important piece of the puzzle. Canon by far has the best. That is why I shoot Canon.
TriggerHappyDude
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I plan to, I'll be handling all the Canons and Nikons...in my price range...which is $500 - $1000...so which cameras am I looking at?
Nikon:
D40
D80
Canon:
???
???
Nikon:
D40
D80
Canon:
???
???
TriggerHappyDude
New member
You forgot to add..."in my opinion"...
TitusvileSurfer
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Because its not just my opinion. Its the industry standard.
TitusvileSurfer
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Yeah that 1DsMkIII is baaaaaad, Hasselblad is the only company I know of that has a superior camera. Of course it costs $30,000 to $40,000 haha
TriggerHappyDude
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I am not going to argue, I don't know enough about this stuff.
But it sounds to me like you are posting your opinion, with no facts or data to back up the statement.
Sounds like an opinion to me.
But it sounds to me like you are posting your opinion, with no facts or data to back up the statement.
Sounds like an opinion to me.
TriggerHappyDude
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Because its massed produced? hehehehe jk.
This is like trying to argue Mac vs. PC...
Which by the way I'm converting, my next PC will be a Mac!
So then its Photoshop vs. Apeture...bla bla bla...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBkjsWM2Xgg
This is like trying to argue Mac vs. PC...
Which by the way I'm converting, my next PC will be a Mac!
So then its Photoshop vs. Apeture...bla bla bla...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBkjsWM2Xgg
It's not Photoshop vs Aperture. It's Lightroom vs Aperture. Neither completely eliminates the need for Photoshop. I own both but get better images from Lightroom. At least for my camera, the Adobe RAW conversion is better than Aperture.
I shoot Canon because I think that it's a better camera. That said, this is my standard post:
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If you decide to go the DSLR route you need to consider more variables than you do with a point and shoot (P&S) camera.
The order of importance, in regard to picture quality, with a DSLR is:
Photographer skill, lens quality, camera body.
Every DSLR body on the market today will take excellent pictures. Your lens choices are far more important than which body you buy.
You also have to be comfortable with how the camera feels. If you're not comfortable with your camera you won't be out shooting with it. Go to a local camera store (avoid places like Ritz, Best Buy, etc.... if at all possible), play with several different camera bodies and see what feels the best in your hand. Buy the one that feels best.
/ personal rant /
If you go to a local store with subject expertise (again, not a Ritz, Best Buy, Wolf Camera, etc) and take advantage of the knowledgeable folks buy your camera there. You might pay a little bit more but they deserve to be compensated for their assistance. In the long run building a relationship with a local store can be very helpful as a good camera is a long term investment. I have no problem buying online to save money; I just don't do it if I've involved the local store in the sales process.
/ end rant /
Buying a DSLR is more than buying a camera, it's buying into a system. That being said Canon and Nikon currently have most of the market. Choosing one of those gives you more choices for expansion down the road. The new Sony looks good as well and it's compatible with Konica/Minolta lenses.
If saving money, by buying used gear, allows you to spend more money on lenses you should go that route. A good lens on a used body will take better pictures than a cheap lens on a brand new body.
Cheers
I shoot Canon because I think that it's a better camera. That said, this is my standard post:
--
If you decide to go the DSLR route you need to consider more variables than you do with a point and shoot (P&S) camera.
The order of importance, in regard to picture quality, with a DSLR is:
Photographer skill, lens quality, camera body.
Every DSLR body on the market today will take excellent pictures. Your lens choices are far more important than which body you buy.
You also have to be comfortable with how the camera feels. If you're not comfortable with your camera you won't be out shooting with it. Go to a local camera store (avoid places like Ritz, Best Buy, etc.... if at all possible), play with several different camera bodies and see what feels the best in your hand. Buy the one that feels best.
/ personal rant /
If you go to a local store with subject expertise (again, not a Ritz, Best Buy, Wolf Camera, etc) and take advantage of the knowledgeable folks buy your camera there. You might pay a little bit more but they deserve to be compensated for their assistance. In the long run building a relationship with a local store can be very helpful as a good camera is a long term investment. I have no problem buying online to save money; I just don't do it if I've involved the local store in the sales process.
/ end rant /
Buying a DSLR is more than buying a camera, it's buying into a system. That being said Canon and Nikon currently have most of the market. Choosing one of those gives you more choices for expansion down the road. The new Sony looks good as well and it's compatible with Konica/Minolta lenses.
If saving money, by buying used gear, allows you to spend more money on lenses you should go that route. A good lens on a used body will take better pictures than a cheap lens on a brand new body.
Cheers
TriggerHappyDude
New member
There is a really big discussion over here:
http://www.photographyboard.net/forums/digital-cameras/35619-canon-vs-nikon.html
about the eternal questioon which one is better...hehehe.
http://www.photographyboard.net/forums/digital-cameras/35619-canon-vs-nikon.html
about the eternal questioon which one is better...hehehe.
