Help on zoas poor

[rxbigs]

hi, i had a very poor experience on another forum's seller shipment issue.
long story short his promised shipment was 3 days late with no response to his post and pm's. anyways it arrived in chicago's winter temp sitting on my doorstep. if seller would of responded with his delays, the package would of been anticipated and had a proper hand-off. so when i opened the package the heat pack was ice cold and the zoa/water was ice cold!
i still went with all the acclimation steps to save them.
what do u guys think? how many days should i give them? are they even alive?
any advise would be appreciated.
my only gripe is his non reply and disregard to any life, large or small...i'm hoping to save them. thanks in advance.
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[PIPS]

I had the same thing happen on my end. Received zoas that came in ice cold. Its been a week and over half have opened up. Give it some time.

 

[tangstank]

They don't look dead yet, but certainly stressed. It might take from 5 days to a week to open up. Leave it alone & let nature take steps to revive it.

 

[rxbigs]

thanks guys, i feel so much better.
i was worried when my hermit crabs went for them. should i isolate them away from the hermits? or are they just eating the dead ones starting to rot.
thanks

 

[geoxman]

They dont look good and are more than likely done. I would frag off the dead ones and sit them in higher flow and away from crabs. You might be able to save a few. Keep an eye out for dead ones and fungus rot. good luck

 

[Scopus Tang]

I've had it go both ways - sometimes they make it, sometimes they don't. As was stated, keep a close eye on them, cut out the dead ones and hope some of them pull through.

 

[John&Steph]

You should not have to save them. It is not like the day he told you they would be there you did not pick them up. He screwed up so he should send you more. I would settle for nothing less. Even if you do nurse them back you shouldn't have to.

 

[fsn77]

Regardless of the circumstances, don't give up on them. Hopefully, many of them will recover. I've received poorly shipped zoas survive in the past, and it did take a week or more before they started opening up. I've also had a few instances where they died and melted away. Either way, your best bet is to just give them time and keep an eye on them.

 

[romsoccer12]

try a revive dip? frag off the dead ones, get some more flow to decrease infections. if you want to isolate them, try cutting a platis cup so it makes a barrier, it works for me

 

[Scott-CapeCoral]

You need to know the differance between disease/fungus, predator, or just stress.
If you see them shrinking, or dissolving, here you go.
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http://www.zoaid.com/articles004.php

Try this. Timelapse photos convince me.

 

[Scott-CapeCoral]

You should state the sellers name, if that's allowed. That's unreal....

 

[rxbigs]

thanks everyone for the advise. the seller eventually contacted me over the phone and apologized. he had an emergency and got caught up. i still would of liked a heads up on the late arrival date to receive but he was cool and sincere. he is willing to replace but i still want a recovery. i've matured alot to respect all walks of life and will try all the recommendations.
one final question, how do i really know which ones are dead?
is it the ones that looks shriveled up like an 'accordian'?
most are completely compressed white at the opening with no sign of color?
how long shall i give them...i'm thinking until after x-mas (2 weeks).
thanks

 

[b16drag]

Keep it off the ground where hermits can get to them and then its a waiting game. Hard to tell which ones are dying, but if they are shrivled up and not opening up, or getting covered up with some dark slime, those are mostly like the ones dying.

I'd wait a few more days, but you may eventually need to start cutting up the pieces in order to salvage them.