Tripod1404
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I jumped over my tank 3 times, yelled out the window, sacrificed a chicken and dripped the blood into the skimmer. And believe me it cured ich!!!
Help! Purchased Flame Angel and I'm pretty sure it has ICH!
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I jumped over my tank 3 times, yelled out the window, sacrificed a chicken and dripped the blood into the skimmer. And believe me it cured ich!!!
gjustinj
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Hello,
Are you saying I don't need to remove all the fish first? or are you saying remove all the fish to a QT and then raise temp? or leave it all in there coral, invert and fish and raise the temp?
AnnaCassandra
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That was bad advice, remove the fish to a QT, treat them with proper medication, wait the time you need to wait, then get back on track. Stop listening to every yahoo on here who jumps in and claims to have some magical cure that doesn't require a QT tank...it's snake oil, they may have lucked out a handful of times but that's probably because their fish didn't actually have the disease they thought it did not because their "cure" actually worked.
Tripod1404
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He is not saying anything, he got lucky and thinks he found a magical cure for ich. Ich is one of the biggest problem of public aquariums. Even they, with thousands of gallons of water volume and hundreds of fish and full time marine scientists, remove all fish a threat. If there was a "reef safe cure" those people would figure it out by know and use it.
From another forum;
MI is not very sensitive to temperature changes. That is, increasing the temperature does not significantly decrease the life cycle time. This is not true with Freshwater Ich (which is where this rumor of raising the temperature on a marine aquarium with MI comes from).
MI can live and reproduce in temperatures as low as 50F and as high as 90F. Thus temperatures that would kill MI would first kill or severely stress most tropical marine fishes.
MI stands for marine ich.
ThRoewer
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Raising the temperature does only one thing: stressing the fish even more because it reduces the amount of dissolved oxygen in the water and accelerates the the fish's metabolism. Telling to raise the temperature is just irresponsibly bad advice.
The method that always worked for me against Cryptocaryon irritans, and which has been scientifically proven, is hyposalinity.
If you feel unable to execute that properly then I would recommend TTM with 4 sets of equipment. Both methods can also be combined.
Of course those methods will only work against Cryptocaryon, but not against Amyloodinium, Brooklynella, Uronema. And while hyposalinity may kill some flukes, it is not effective against all.
Also, next time it would be better to ask fish disease related questions in the appropriate forum - you will get better answers there.
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The method that always worked for me against Cryptocaryon irritans, and which has been scientifically proven, is hyposalinity.
If you feel unable to execute that properly then I would recommend TTM with 4 sets of equipment. Both methods can also be combined.
Of course those methods will only work against Cryptocaryon, but not against Amyloodinium, Brooklynella, Uronema. And while hyposalinity may kill some flukes, it is not effective against all.
Also, next time it would be better to ask fish disease related questions in the appropriate forum - you will get better answers there.
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By introducing 1 fish with ich, treat the entire tank as they need a host for extended life but yet they can live without one for several weeks.
Keep everything in the tank and raise the temp about 1.5-2 degrees per day until you reach at least 84. Keep it there for at least a week after inch has disappeared from everyone.
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sde1500
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Or you could stop giving bad information. That'd be more helpful.
Though after how many days it's been, with OP seemingly fixating on whoever answered him last, or gave the easiest solution, I find it hard to believe anything will actually be done.
heathlindner25
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Before I listen to people, I like to look at their tanks to see if they know what they're doing...
Got some pictures?:lolspin:
gjustinj
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You're pretty rude. You can go away now.
To everyone else I am totally listening to you guys and not just taking the easy way out. I'm planning my QT while performing parashield on the tank to increase the fishes slime coat. I'm still not certain ich is there so before doing anything drastic I need to see it present. But plans are being made I didn't drop over 3k on this hobby to lose it all like a moron.
Even this gus advice I have taken into consideration and appreciate it emmensely. Just don't expect me to be bullied I'm not that guy
this forum is amazing and I really appreciate it
Stolireef
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Nobody is being rude. Look at this guy's post count. Raising tank temp doesn't do a thing to kill off MI.
That said, having followed your threads and posts for a week or so...
mic drop.
That's not oil.
Hi Justin,
I also don't want to sound rude but I'm not sure why you have purchased corals when you haven't addressed your ich issue.
In the beginning of your thread everyone told you to slow down and do research which you acknowledged, and then you decided to buy two beginner corals without researching them and knowing their names...
Its been about 4-5 days since the start of your thread how are your fish doing (not just your flame as your other fish will be effected by cryptocaryon irritans/ich?) And what method have you decided to take with treating ich? (TTM, Copper)
I'd also recommend to stop listening to your LFS, the fact that he said he has fish that can eat ich demonstrates his knowledge.
Buying fish with ich is not the LFS' fault and i don't believe it warrants a customer to return the fish.
A lot of experienced reefers quarantine and treat all fish prior to introducing them to the DT.
I myself complete TTM along with a 4 week monitoring at the end of TTM.
It is a long and painful process but it beats h
Unfortunately our reef hobby is an expensive one but if executed properly it is also a very rewarding one.
I'm not sure if you can blame people who are rude/frustrated when the questions asked are answered in the stickies.
We all learn from our lessons and I just don't want you to repeat the same mistake.
I also don't want to sound rude but I'm not sure why you have purchased corals when you haven't addressed your ich issue.
In the beginning of your thread everyone told you to slow down and do research which you acknowledged, and then you decided to buy two beginner corals without researching them and knowing their names...
Its been about 4-5 days since the start of your thread how are your fish doing (not just your flame as your other fish will be effected by cryptocaryon irritans/ich?) And what method have you decided to take with treating ich? (TTM, Copper)
I'd also recommend to stop listening to your LFS, the fact that he said he has fish that can eat ich demonstrates his knowledge.
Buying fish with ich is not the LFS' fault and i don't believe it warrants a customer to return the fish.
A lot of experienced reefers quarantine and treat all fish prior to introducing them to the DT.
I myself complete TTM along with a 4 week monitoring at the end of TTM.
It is a long and painful process but it beats h
Unfortunately our reef hobby is an expensive one but if executed properly it is also a very rewarding one.
I'm not sure if you can blame people who are rude/frustrated when the questions asked are answered in the stickies.
We all learn from our lessons and I just don't want you to repeat the same mistake.
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