HERBIE Method for sump?

[OnceTrueFalseBr]

o here is a diagram i did in Photoshop.

This is how I understand it. I think I get the flow.

My only question is as in the diagram the outlets/drains come out the side (or back if modified) is this possible? I know there aren't supposed to be any horizontals in the Herbie, but i'm asking IN CASE i CANT drill the bottom of the tank.

 

[Tigerdragon]

Thats pretty much it other than a gate valve in main drain to make the full siphon

 

[OnceTrueFalseBr]

Thats pretty much it other than a gate valve in main drain to make the full siphon

yea i noticed after.

Now what can I use to "hide" the outlet pipes?

can i get a piece of black acrylic/plexiglass and glue it inside?

 

[Tigerdragon]

Are you running an overflow box?

 

[SGT_York]

You really need/want an overflow. Something that will keep the water around the pipes separate from the water in the display tank. Two reasons, one when the pump turns off all the water in the display will drain into your sump until the water level reaches the level of your siphon drain pipe. Problems mean lots of water into your sump, overflowing onto your floor, and any corals out of the water won't be happy, die off, etc you get the picture I hope.

Secondly, the junk we want to get out of our water a significant portion of it floats, so the overflow helps to limit the water that goes into the sump and protein skimmer by "surface skimming" which leads to better water quality happier inhabitants.

And a less angry spouse!

 

[Tigerdragon]

I would drill the back, unless you are doing a peninsula style tank, get a cpr internal overflow box silicone seal it to back so you get surface skimming and either use black vinyl or paint on the back to hide piping. This pic is of back plumbing

 

[Tigerdragon]

Here is a view from front of tank

 

[Tigerdragon]

And what it looks like in overflow

 

[Jeff210]

^^^ As usual...what SARGE says...

If all but the bottom few inches of your tank water drains into your sump when your return pump turns off (and it will), you're going to need a big ole wet vac (and possibly a good divorce attorney)...

 

[OnceTrueFalseBr]

And what it looks like in overflow

So this is not Herbie method.

It is internal overflow box method? same principal different implementation?

i kinda like that.

it looks a bit more fool proof too in a way... if wont keep draining.

I might just stick to HOB filters LOL
it is so confusing

 

[OnceTrueFalseBr]

^^^ As usual...what SARGE says...

If all but the bottom few inches of your tank water drains into your sump when your return pump turns off (and it will), you're going to need a big ole wet vac (and possibly a good divorce attorney)...

LOL luckily im still single but it would SUCK donkey balls to fund my tank empy and my room full!

 

[Yellow Eyes]

I have the same setup as Tiger does....two holes in the top/back of the tank, with two 90 degree elbows, one facing up, one facing down. Then I have two 90 degree elbows on the dry side of the tank going down to the sump with no more horizontal runs.

Just make sure you add the gate/ball valve (I use a ball, it works fine, took 10-15 minutes to dial it in) on the siphon line. I have had no problems yet, it restarts for any power outage and once a day for feeding when the return pump shuts off. Also dead silent.

 

[OnceTrueFalseBr]

I have the same setup as Tiger does....two holes in the top/back of the tank, with two 90 degree elbows, one facing up, one facing down. Then I have two 90 degree elbows on the dry side of the tank going down to the sump with no more horizontal runs.

Just make sure you add the gate/ball valve (I use a ball, it works fine, took 10-15 minutes to dial it in) on the siphon line. I have had no problems yet, it restarts for any power outage and once a day for feeding when the return pump shuts off. Also dead silent.

i'm kinda digging this option.

A. I fear drilling the BOTTOM of a tank
B. I like having the outlets AT THE TOP!

THANKS!

 

[Yellow Eyes]

Just make sure you build some kind of overflow box for it. Here is the back view of mine. I just made an overflow box out of acrylic, cut some slots in the top, and it's been holding up good so far.

(I also added another Union to the emergency pipe to be able to transport the tank if I ever had to. The plumbing is just dry-fitted in this picture.

 

[OnceTrueFalseBr]

Just make sure you build some kind of overflow box for it. Here is the back view of mine. I just made an overflow box out of acrylic, cut some slots in the top, and it's been holding up good so far.

(I also added another Union to the emergency pipe to be able to transport the tank if I ever had to. The plumbing is just dry-fitted in this picture.

what kinda of material is that and what kind of adhesive did you use?

 

[Mrramsey]

If you are going to go through the trouble of drilling and adding an overflow box to the inside you might as well do a BeanAnimal overflow.

 

[OnceTrueFalseBr]

If you are going to go through the trouble of drilling and adding an overflow box to the inside you might as well do a BeanAnimal overflow.

diagram/schematics?

 

[SGT_York]

Highly recommendable to go BA. I am in the process of installing a CPR overflow with a BA and it's a great system.

Here is the beginning link, in all it's 350 page glory. It looks complicated but is really easy enough to DIY.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=14058977#post14058977

 

[OnceTrueFalseBr]

Highly recommendable to go BA. I am in the process of installing a CPR overflow with a BA and it's a great system.

Here is the beginning link, in all it's 350 page glory. It looks complicated but is really easy enough to DIY.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=14058977#post14058977

time to brew some coffee!

cheers thanks!

 

[JMorris271]

I want to do the same thing you are thinking about mainly because you can use any size pipe that you choose just like BA.. Your siphon can be as high as you want it to be and you only have two holes instead of 3 . Not every one wants the BA look inside their tank.