skanderson
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not to bog this thread down but, eye color in humans is certainly a selectable trait. anything with a visibly expressed phenotype, and be selected by a breeeder.
How do we get the Picasso Clown?
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teamdulski
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Wow, did this get off topic. So the consensus is selective breeding?
elegance coral
They call me EC
All Picasso's originated from one male, obtained by ORA. As previously mentioned, ORA paired this male with an onyx. A few of the offspring from this pair will show the Picasso traits. Those that did, were paired up to create a breeding stock. The percentage of off spring that show the Picasso pattern is still very low. Which creates the high price tag. (supply and demand)
The offspring form this broodstock that doesn't show the Picasso trait, may still be able to pass it on to their offspring. This is cool, because you can get two regular perc's from ORA, breed them, and produce Picasso offspring. At least if one of the perc's was from this bloodline.
Personally, I think Picasso's are the most outstanding clowns available. As far as markings go that is. I own 6 pairs of clowns, but no Picasso's because it is sooooooo hard to find a healthy one. To find a healthy pair is even more difficult. All of the Picasso's I have seen for sale in about the past year have had deformities, or were just sickly.
Here's a short write up about them with a pic of the original pair.
http://www.orafarm.com/exclusives.html
The offspring form this broodstock that doesn't show the Picasso trait, may still be able to pass it on to their offspring. This is cool, because you can get two regular perc's from ORA, breed them, and produce Picasso offspring. At least if one of the perc's was from this bloodline.
Personally, I think Picasso's are the most outstanding clowns available. As far as markings go that is. I own 6 pairs of clowns, but no Picasso's because it is sooooooo hard to find a healthy one. To find a healthy pair is even more difficult. All of the Picasso's I have seen for sale in about the past year have had deformities, or were just sickly.
Here's a short write up about them with a pic of the original pair.
http://www.orafarm.com/exclusives.html
ctenophors rule
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bump?
RicksReefs
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back in the 80's when I bred a few clowns, if the kids weren't perfect images of their parents, they got fed to the rest of the crew. no misbars, no stubbies, nuthin'.
I lost a little respect for ORA when they started marketing the 'balloons'. when did deformed fish with missing vertabrae become desirable?
That makes at least two of us.
Started with the FW side of the trade quite some time ago, along with artificially dyed and tattooed fish
Tragedy of the commons. Too many people that think mother nature needs improving upon in order for an animal to be "cool".coralnut99
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Absolutely comes from the FW marketing philosophy. Take a look through the FW tanks of a LFS that sells both, and some of what you see will just make you shake your head. Most of it has much less to do with selective breeding than it does with turning the hobby into an underwater circus freak show.
RicksReefs
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ya, evidently we're not above the freshwater freak shows of 'balloon cichlids', tattoos, and glowfish...
sad.
sad.
RicksReefs
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I can't wait for the 'real' clownfish to come out, complete with a little red nose, a permanant smile, and big floppy fins.
Plankt0s
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Riding on a unicycle as it gets out of a slug bug full of 50 other clown fish.
I have usually always tried to work part time at a LFS for the discount and so that I can order wholesale. A few years back when Finding Nemo came out everyone was looking for a clown fish with one small fin. I actually heard of a guy at another LFS "trimming" their fins to accommodate those people. Now thats sick.
coralnut99
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Key words: Trauma, temporary, and novelty.
You can build the script around them.
