How to avoid Phytoplankton crashes

2-3 weeks depending on the desired density. I had a one culture that multiplied so rapidly that i could split it in one week!
 
what are you doing with your living phyto??? I HAVE 20 LITERS GROTECH BREEDER AND I USED IT WITH NANOCHLOROPSIS BUT PRODUCTION WAS NOT ENOUGH TO FEED SMALL AMOUNTS OF BRACHIONUS PLICATILIS; i DID AFTER THAT PORPHIRIDIUM RED PHYTO AND IT WAS THE SAME;Now i use EQUIVALENT OF16OO LITERS PER MONTH NANNOCHLOROPSIS MADE BY PROFESSIONNALS AND I CAN FEED MILLIARDS OF BRACHIONUS ONLY BECAUSE I ALSO FEED WITH LARGE AND LIVE QUANTITIES OF BUTCHER YEAST AND I HOPE TO SEE EFFECTS ON ALL CORALS AND OTHER ANIMALS;so when i see you guys doing with little bottles of phyto i wonder what results you can obtain????????????????????????
 
hey guys so far i fallowed all the directions from form melev, one thing i wasnt clear about and isnt mention is how much of the DTs phyto should you add to the recipe when you start your first culture? i started with about 15 or 20 ML
 
heres some pictures so far this is my second day running my culture and i used the miracle-gro and i shake the bottle slightll every morning
phyto2.jpg


phyto1.jpg
 
Im no expert but from what i have read phyto feast is all basically dead because its a mixture of so many different type of plankton that they all basically kill each other ...i just started mine with DT marine but the best choice is to start from a culture disk.
 
Hey, I have not tried the phyto thing yet, but I wonder that maybe a smaller wattage lamp could be used if it had no reflector and was placed in the middle of a white bucket. It looks like there would be room for 4 cultures. Maybe cut a couple flat spots on the perimeter of the lid for the airlines, and loosely set the lid on top for a reflector.

It might also be worthwhile to find how many lumens a given lamp produces. Some lamps produce more lumens/watt than others. I'm not sure what part of the spectrum is critical for phyto, but getting a spectral graph for a lamp usually only takes a phone call or two.

I'm always trying to squeeze everything I can out of every single watt.

Joe
 
Okay, this going to be all over the place so bear with me....

Some people here use Carbon dioxide, instead of normal air to drive the agitation of their phyto cultures, correct?

why not use a yeast culture, and then feed the Yeast culture to the rotifers instead of phyto?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9507394#post9507394 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Qcks
Okay, this going to be all over the place so bear with me....

Some people here use Carbon dioxide, instead of normal air to drive the agitation of their phyto cultures, correct?

why not use a yeast culture, and then feed the Yeast culture to the rotifers instead of phyto?

This certainly be done, but in the long run it would be a pain.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9507394#post9507394 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Qcks
Okay, this going to be all over the place so bear with me....

Some people here use Carbon dioxide, instead of normal air to drive the agitation of their phyto cultures, correct?

why not use a yeast culture, and then feed the Yeast culture to the rotifers instead of phyto?

Oooops - my fault. I thought you wanted to use the CO2 from the yeast to grow the phyto. Actually, you don't even need to grow the yeast. You can simply feed the rotifers with bakers yeast dissolved in water. The reason most people grow phyto though is to provide food for the pods in their refugia/tank.
 
Does anyone use the little bit of CO2 blowoff from a calcium reactor for phyto culture?

Does using CO2 really make a difference?

Joe
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9511773#post9511773 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by salty joe
Does anyone use the little bit of CO2 blowoff from a calcium reactor for phyto culture?

Does using CO2 really make a difference?

Joe

With an adequate light source, carbon becomes the rate limiting nutrient in algal culture, so supplementing CO2 significantly accelerates growth. The ideal way to deliver CO2, however, would be to use a pH controller as the degree of pH suppression would correlate with amount of CO2 delivered (This is what most people do in freshwater naturally planted tanks). I used to have a system like this setup on a freshwater tank and man did the plants grow! Don't know for sure about algal culture though...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9496079#post9496079 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sinister52
can u use phytofeast to start these?

Yes, if you want to culture nanno. Nanno will win out against all the other strains.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9496120#post9496120 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gotdibz
Im no expert but from what i have read phyto feast is all basically dead because its a mixture of so many different type of plankton that they all basically kill each other ...i just started mine with DT marine but the best choice is to start from a culture disk.

Sorry, but that is just wrong. PF is not dead. If you try to culture it, the strongest will win, nanno..

DT's is a mixture as well ;)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9511852#post9511852 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wlagarde
The ideal way to deliver CO2, however, would be to use a pH controller as the degree of pH suppression would correlate with amount of CO2 delivered (This is what most people do in freshwater naturally planted tanks).

For a planted tank, yes a controller is great. However, for a phyto culture you would not need it, just turn the CO2 off when the lights go off. The photosynthesis in a dense algae culture will cause a high pH, more than enough to counter the pH lowering effect of adding CO2 ;)

Is CO2 worth using, probably not in a home culture situation. In a commercial situation it can certainly increase your production enough to be worthwile.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9513400#post9513400 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by billsreef
For a planted tank, yes a controller is great. However, for a phyto culture you would not need it, just turn the CO2 off when the lights go off. The photosynthesis in a dense algae culture will cause a high pH, more than enough to counter the pH lowering effect of adding CO2 ;)

Is CO2 worth using, probably not in a home culture situation. In a commercial situation it can certainly increase your production enough to be worthwile.

Yet using a controller would still result in more precise dosing and most efficient utilization of CO2 - But I agree - likely not worth the investment.
 
my attempt to start a phyto culture with DT's has failed, im not sayin it wont work, maibe the phyto i bought was probably to old or something. I have placed an order of starter culture disks with floridaaquafarms.com . Im going to give it another try and will update with pictures as soon as i can
 
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