I Need RO/DI

dark_lotis

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I was wantinhg to know what some opions are for a good RO/DI system. II looked at melve's reef and buckeye field supply but i don't what to get. Melve's looked like it came with everything i need and the others looked like i might has ti get a few assecors and my LFS said something about a spectra I think thats what it called. So any input on this would be nice thatnks.
 
I would email Marc directly. IMO you will not go wrong with Marc, he is first rate all the way. I got mine off eBay, but if you don't know what you want, I would go with a trusted source.
 
Spectrapure is suposed to be the best, but not the cheapest.
They're supposed to have something new out that runs more efficiently.
I got one from filterguys, which is good, but I'm starting to understand how quick you can go through membranes/DI resin on less efficient filters.
AZdesertrat is a good person to talk to for detailed info on these.
 
If you do the Spectrapure route, go for the MaxCap RO/DI. It's the best period. I just spoke to a rep at Spectrapure and a new technology (microprocessor controlled) is coming available in the next month. Keep an eye out as it will be worth the wait from what I understand. :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9532273#post9532273 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dark_lotis
who is this marc you speak of.

Sorry :) Marc Levenson www.melevsreef.com

Team RC, RC Sponsor, President of DFWMAS, and all around nice guy.


(he's also a stripper which I think is kind of weird, but who am I to judge... :lol: )
 
There are several Reef Central sponsors that deal almost exclusively in RO/DI systems. Spectrapure is by far the best as they offer features and services not found anywhere else at any price. The MaxCap RO/DI is the best thing since sliced bread. It may cost more initially but it really will save you a ton of money over its lifespan, which in itself is longer than most anything else too.
Others in the $200 range are
www.buckeyefieldsupply.com - 75 GPD Premium series
www.thefilterguys.biz - 75 GPD Ocean Reef+
www.purelyh2o.com - Optima CA, Automated or Vision series
Melevs units are pretty good too although I think he needs to offer a refillable DI and Dow membrane but thats just me speaking.
 
Man I hate when some one tells that its really worth to go for the more expensive one. I really don't have the money but i'm sitting here thing i know i could get the money but should I. I don't know
 
Read about the differences in their Sponsors Forum. Its quite significant and I am here to tell you they are proven and not just idle claims.
 
The difference in DI costs over the first year alone will usually make the Maxcap system less expensive than other cheaper units. That is just on the merit of the Maxcap DI, the other features (.5micron prefilters, NOT 5 micron like everyone else. Dual TDS meters) and the tested membrane are really icing on the cake.

FWIW, I am certain that Melev is a great guy, judging from his website, he could certainly stand to learn about RO/DI. There is more misinformation there than I have ever seen on a single page regarding RO/DI.
 
I have Marc's unit and it works really well for me. Zero TDS after DI. Comes will lots of hook up options also.
 
Don't get hung up on stages. A dual DI is very nice but some vendors call the final taste and odor drinking water carbon filter a "stage" and others use two carbons and count them as two stages. In reality all it takes is 4 "stages" if they contain the correct micron rated filters. You need a good prefilter in the 0.2 to 1.0 micron range prefferable one with an absolute rating so it really does what it claims to do. You need a carbon block in the 0.5 to 1 micron range to adsorb chlorine and VOCs for up to 20,000 gallons of normally chlorinated water. You need a good RO membrane in the 98% +/- rejection range, the higher the rejection rate the better as this is what makes your DI resin last longer and work better. This is where the Spectrapure systems with their hand tested and guaranteed membranes shine, mine is averaging 99.25% rejection. Finally you need a full sized 24 oz DI canister and cartridge.
If you want to use RO for drinking water then the carbon taste and odor filter is used, do not use it for reef DI water though as it adds TDS back in. Two carbons are unneeded with a good 1 micron or less carbon block and that includes if you have chloramines, catalytic carbon is nice but really not necessary and if you do use it you want to follow it up with a 0.5 micron carbon blcok or sediment filter to trap the fines as it erodes.
Dual DI will extend the life of resin if you are using normal mixed bed resins as you can rotate cartridges into the lead position as the first one is exhausted and replace the second one. In the case of the MaxCap system the resins are a proprietary blend and they work best with the Max Cap in first and the Silica Buster in last. The Max Cap should go somewhere in the 600+ gallon range or more and the Silica Buster should last through at least 3 MaxCaps before requiring a change so a minimum of 1800 gallons. These numbers are with Phoenix water with a tap TDS of around 800 so most people will see lifespans much greater than this since the average nationwide TDS is only 250 to start with.

kfowler, any RO/DI should be capable of 0 TDS water after DI. The question is how well does the RO membrane work since this is what determines how long the DI lasts. I always tell everyone, test Tap Water TDS, RO only TDS and RO/DI TDS to determine your total packages efficiency not just the DI. If your membrane is only doing 90 or 95% DI will not last, although I think Marcs membranes are capable of at least 96% if not 98%. An important piece of information to remember is, For every 2% you increase the RO membranes efficiency, you DOUBLE the life of the DI resin! This is why I am glad I have a 99.25% efficient membrane with my 800 TDS tap water. My latest numbers are 795 TDS tap, 6.4 TDS RO only and RO/DI way down in the 18+ megaohm range which is much less than an indicated 0 on most TDS meters.
 
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