Ich problem, need qt advice

Jberge60

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I have a 72g with 2 clowns, 2 chromis, a sailfin tang, coral beauty and a watchman goby along with some hermits, snails and a blood shrimp. The female clown has had what appears to be ich for a few weeks now going back and forth from bad to ok. Every time I'm about to set up a qt it looks better but it's not going away. The male also has had a couple spots but not as bad and both have been eating. I haven't seen any signs of it on the other fish. So I also have a 29g that I left set up with 2 damsels when I upgraded because they were a nuisance. I'm wondering if I should move everyone to that tank and use it as my qt to treat with copper. I don't know if that will be too crowded though. I'm tired of seeing this ich and don't want to deal with it anymore. Any suggestions I can get would be great.
 
I think a 29g would be big enough for all your fish. Don't know how the Damsels will do with the new fish. One way or the other you're going to have to attend to the Ich outbreak. Obviously, going fallow would be the best bet but you'll have to do what's right for you.
 
WHat kind of damsels? If dascyllus, they won't get along with the chromis, and will likely defend their tank from everybody anyway. Can you return them to the lfs or find them a home? If not, put a section of lighting grid (eggcrate is the common term) to wall off part of that tank, or you will probably have trouble.
 
One is a yellowtail and the other a velvet. Maybe I'll just set up a 10g or something for them. Also has anyone had a bad expierence with the copper? I'm scared of harming or losing the fish that don't have symptoms yet
 
As I recall, angels don't take copper well. Your BEST bet would be to get 2 ten gallon tanks and do 'tank transfer,' which depends on the pest trying to reproduce. How to do that is in the stickies on this forum. Just proceed with a few fish at a time (10 gallon limitations) and keep at it. I take it there IS no ich in the 29? No sharing of nets, etc, which can transfer it? But your main tank has to stay fishless for 72 days or more to starve out the ich which has taken up housekeeping there.
 
If your 'velvet' is a black fish with an electric blue V and a white band, that is a very aggressive damsel that may cause you some grief with overcrowding.
 
I just went out and got a 20g for the qt. The female clown is pretty well covered and now the cb is showing spots. I'm trying to move them over to the qt now. Should I start the cupramine right away or give them a little time to relax
 
I gave half of the first dose and I'll do the other half in the morning if they look like they're handling it alright.
 
Just make sure you dose at exactly the required level. It's a fine line between not enough to kill the ich and hurting the fish. Watch the evaporation and ammonia

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Ich problem, need qt advice

People will probably lambast me for saying this, but I never test my QT water. The reason being is I do a 50% water change once a week. I have never lost a fish in quarantine due to poor water quality.

Let me also add, the fish are in a room without a lot of direct light and the lights only go on for 3-hours a night during their single feeding for the day.
 
Good, that's exactly the type of room they are in. I am only worried about ammonia since I just set the tank up last night. I cut a piece of sponge from my sump and put it in the hob and threw one piece of LR in there for the heck of it
 
So I just tested the copper level and figured it should be at .25 after the first dose and my API test isn't registering any. I have the seachem kit coming tomorrow but shouldn't there be something in the system after almost 40 drops
 
If I remember correctly, with Cupramine you add 20-drops per 10-gallons, which should bring you up to .3. Then 48-hours later you add another 20-drops, which should bring you to the therapeutic level of .6.

It appears you're not adding enough.
 
Yes you are correct. It is 20 drops per 10.5g. My qt is 20g so I did 38 drops. The next dose will be tomorrow night and I'll have the seachem test by then so I'll see what that reads. Also my sailfin who looked fine yesterday is covered in spots now. I hope he makes it to the second dose
 
People will probably lambast me for saying this, but I never test my QT water. The reason being is I do a 50% water change once a week. I have never lost a fish in quarantine due to poor water quality.

There's really no reason to test, I never have (though I do use the ammonia badge). Not sure there's any reason to do such aggressive water changes either - unless you're trying to remove meds.
 
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