Id this plague

[e048]

So can anyone help me to id and treat this plague in my 150g reef its smothered my gsp and gorgonians now it's covering my rock and glass

My water is near perfect except for the ph 8.2

Nitrates, ammonia, nitrites, phosphates, 0
Calcium 480
Dkh 7

I'm running phosguard in my sump to see if it helps with a 100micron sock in the sump

 

[e048]

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[e048]

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[gone fishin]

looks like dinoflagellates to me.

 

[Bent]

Sorry man, I also think it looks dinoish.

 

[Misled]

Yea, pretty much!!!!

 

[jraker]

looks like dinoflagellates to me.

+1

 

[e048]

Could it be Calothrix?

 

[e048]

Im going to try this to see if it's dynos

http://www.*********.com/threads/helpful-method-for-identifying-dinoflagellates.216508/

 

[Sugar Magnolia]

It really doesn't look like Dino's to me. I've had Dino's many years ago and it looks like long strings of brown snot coming off of the rock. It could be calothrix or just some turf algae. I had calothrix grow on some brs reef saver rock as my tank was maturing a few years ago. Keeping my tank params stable with weekly water changes made with rodi water, along with running gfo, it receeded after about 6 months.

 

[e048]

I'm running gfo and doing 20-30% weekly water changes with ro and still haven't had any success.

Worse case scenario I'll do a 3 days light out followed by a huge wc and see if that kills them

Will a lights out period of 2-3 days kill my squamosa clam,

I have about 200ml of phosguard in my sump trying to lower the phosphates and silicates in case it is diatoms or some other freak algae

So far the diatom test has come up negative I followed what the link had said to do and so far nothing has happend....

 

[Will Haider]

Just looks like brown hair algae to me. Is it slimy or does it grip the rocks?

 

[Member No. 1]

Just a thought on the huge water changes...
As discussed in other dino threads, contrary to the belief that doing frequent or massive water changes will help, actually you are fueling the problem by replacing trace elements and nutrients that dinos use.
I had an outbreak of dino's, my course of action was lights out for 3 days (I did not wrap the tank), adding 2ml of hydrogen peroxide per 10 gallons daily for 1 week, and NO water changes for 2 weeks. Only then did I resume my daily wc of 1.5 gallons/day. Tank is clean, never saw another dino.

 

[e048]

It's weird it has a powder that comes off easy from the rocks and under the powder it's stuck to the rocks... Like chalk over grass

 

[LJLKRL]

You might try some AlgaeFix Marine. I had something similar and this fixed it for me. I have stopped dosing it completely and the problem has not come back.

 

[e048]

I hear that stuff kills coral and clams

 

[e048]

Okay so it's not dinos I did the Dino test and had it looked at under a microscope

So I'm good there now what I'm going to do is hold off on wc and reduce my photoperiod gradually then do a lights out for 2 days followed by a huge wc also daily cleaning of all filter media and replacing my filter sock daily as well.... I'll use the rest of the phosguard I have and see if that helps coupled with lighter feeding and no more nori for a few weeks

I'm thinking of getting some cured live rock as well maybe 5-10lbs to see if some good stuff will come and help with nutrient export I'm also planning on adding a basketball size piece of chaeto to the fuge and leave the lights on all day in the fuge and see if that helps too

What do y'all think?

 

[Quiet_Ivy]

Okay so it's not dinos I did the Dino test and had it looked at under a microscope


I'm thinking of getting some cured live rock as well maybe 5-10lbs to see if some good stuff will come and help with nutrient export I'm also planning on adding a basketball size piece of chaeto to the fuge and leave the lights on all day in the fuge and see if that helps too

What do y'all think?

So what is it? If you mean Sonnus' test, it's not definitive if it's negative. I thought your original pic looked like some kind of hair algae covered in cyano personally. Did you get microscope pics? I like to keep track of the dino threads with definitive diagnoses.

Live rock is great but probably not going to do anything for nutrient export. Your levels are great except your alkalinity is a tad low, if it drops at night it could go below 7.

hth
ivy

 

[Quiet_Ivy]

I hear that stuff kills coral and clams

Both algaeFX/DinoX and hydrogen peroxide are very dangerous to clams. Also small ornamental shrimp.

(just for people reading this)
ivy

 

[Bent]

Have you tried relocating your clam to a 10g tank, lighting it in there and dousing the lights in the tank for 3 or 4 days?

How old is the rock in the tank? Did you cure it before use? It may just be a simple hair algae outbreak from leaching po4.

Also, I think po4 tests are useless. If you are seeing algae of this magnitude, you won't have a large amount in the water column because the algae is eating it. So just the presence of algae says that the rock is leeching po4.

I bet when you douse the lights and the algae starts dying you will see a huge increase in the overall po4 level since the algae is not there anymore to take it up.

Also, I think that just throwing some phosban in a sock in the sump is not effective. Your going to have to find some way to push the water through it with a reactor or an old canister filter or something.