Ideas to introduce coralline into my ich free FOWLR

[holdyourlight]

Tank was set up with dry rocks and sand so i need a way to seed it. There are no snails, no corals, just fish, water, rock and sand. Fish have all been treated with TT method. I've worked very hard to achieve a disease free tank.

My plan was to get a small (quarter size) piece of coralline to seed the tank with.

Now i could quarantine this tiny piece of corraline for 72 days, but with such a small piece, would i be able to just scrub it real good to kill any ich cysts?

I certainly do not want to take any chances. Just wondered if i had any other options in this case.

 

[Fragman4]

http://www.ipsf.com/corallinebooster.html

 

[Spar]

Tank was set up with dry rocks and sand so i need a way to seed it. There are no snails, no corals, just fish, water, rock and sand. Fish have all been treated with TT method. I've worked very hard to achieve a disease free tank.

My plan was to get a small (quarter size) piece of coralline to seed the tank with.

Now i could quarantine this tiny piece of corraline for 72 days, but with such a small piece, would i be able to just scrub it real good to kill any ich cysts?

I certainly do not want to take any chances. Just wondered if i had any other options in this case.

scrubbing wont do anything to the microscopic cysts, or at least not all of them (if any are present to begin with).

i ended up fallow-treating new live rock in order to bring in coralline as I originally set my tank up with only base rock (marco rock) as you did. really no other choices for absolute assurance.

if you go the fallow route, go with some bigger pieces of coralline to get you going faster.

 

[Deinonych]

scrubbing wont do anything to the microscopic cysts, or at least not all of them (if any are present to begin with).

I ended up fallow-treating new live rock in order to bring in coralline as i originally set my tank up with only base rock (marco rock) as you did. Really no other choices for absolute assurance.

If you go the fallow route, go with some bigger pieces of coralline to get you going faster.

+1

 

[holdyourlight]

Good call guys. 12 week QT it is for coralline

 

[Spar]

Good call guys. 12 week QT it is for coralline

may as well throw in some other fancy critters at the same time. new coral, new shrimp, hermits, etc. at least it isn't like watching paint dry that way (...almost literally in the case of coralline...).

 

[holdyourlight]

may as well throw in some other fancy critters at the same time. new coral, new shrimp, hermits, etc. at least it isn't like watching paint dry that way (...almost literally in the case of coralline...).

I'll probably QT some Trochus at the same time. I don't keep coral anymore and definitely not hermits! haha

 

[triggreef]

Sound suggestions. I suggest to skip the snails. There are some parasites that need a snail host as well as a fish host. But without snails, even if you introduced said parasite, it would eventually just die off since there is no snail host. If I had to do it over I'd do that as well. I'm not sure I see any real benefit from snails/crabs that can't be provided with a tang.

 

[holdyourlight]

Sound suggestions. I suggest to skip the snails. There are some parasites that need a snail host as well as a fish host. But without snails, even if you introduced said parasite, it would eventually just die off since there is no snail host. If I had to do it over I'd do that as well. I'm not sure I see any real benefit from snails/crabs that can't be provided with a tang.

This is interesting. Not sure i've ever heard of such a parasite. Do you have any more info on them? I agree with your sentiments about tangs. If i introduce any snails it will be a small amount of tank-bred trochus snails that i will QT for 12+ weeks. They are able to get into some areas that my Kole tang cannot.

 

[alprazo]

Sound suggestions. I suggest to skip the snails. There are some parasites that need a snail host as well as a fish host. But without snails, even if you introduced said parasite, it would eventually just die off since there is no snail host. If I had to do it over I'd do that as well. I'm not sure I see any real benefit from snails/crabs that can't be provided with a tang.

Monogenia aka flukes usually require Gastropoda as an intermediate host to complete the life cycle.

Sometimes when we eat fish, we take part in the lifecycle too.

This means that flukes will not probably survive in a tank without snails.

 

[Deinonych]

Monogenia aka flukes usually require Gastropoda as an intermediate host to complete the life cycle.

Monogenea require only a single host, hence the name. Organisms from this Class are most commonly seen in the hobby. Trematodes from Class Digenea require an intermediate host.

 

[ThRoewer]

Are the snails that are used for algae control in reef tanks even suitable intermediate hosts for these parasites?
With many of these parasites it has to be a quite specific intermediate host.

 

[alprazo]

Monogenea require only a single host, hence the name. Organisms from this Class are most commonly seen in the hobby. Trematodes from Class Digenea require an intermediate host.

Thanks for the correction.

It had been a while since reading this, a great chapter.


https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...icmFuY2hodXNiYW5kcnl8Z3g6MmRjNjRjYTc0YzRjZDQy

 

[Deinonych]

This is a good article about Monogeneans, specifically: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fa033

 

[jbvdhp]

Didn't know there was so much written on this hobby and all the creatures associated with it.