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Ok but the one fish I haven't gotten in a while that I really want is a hippo tang. Would he be ok in a 55 gallon tank. I know he needs a bigger one but he should be good in that one right.
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Ok but the one fish I haven't gotten in a while that I really want is a hippo tang. Would he be ok in a 55 gallon tank. I know he needs a bigger one but he should be good in that one right.
No, that fish needs a much larger tank.
jraker
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no. hippo tangs get a foot long and require an 8 foot 240 gallon tank. 55 is not even close. although they may be popular, and they may be in tanks smaller than 240, that does not mean you should put them in too small of a tank. here is a link to the proper size tanks for different tangs.
joshbrookkate
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It's great that you're asking questions like this before you buy....
DrewHaus
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This hobby can teach patience IMO.
My suggestion:
If you still have fish and they are infected with ich, treat them. If you have healthy fish pull through, you have a decision to make. If they are fish that require a larger aquarium to be healthy and thrive, return them to the fish store. If they're appropriate fish for your aquarium, you can keep them.
Next up is the fun part. Choose fish you want to keep before going to the fish store. Make a list, and post it so others with experience can give you advice on your choices. Take it slowly. Add one fish at a time and wait to make sure you can maintain a healthy tank before adding more fish.
The planning will pay off, and this hobby will be more rewarding for you!
My suggestion:
If you still have fish and they are infected with ich, treat them. If you have healthy fish pull through, you have a decision to make. If they are fish that require a larger aquarium to be healthy and thrive, return them to the fish store. If they're appropriate fish for your aquarium, you can keep them.
Next up is the fun part. Choose fish you want to keep before going to the fish store. Make a list, and post it so others with experience can give you advice on your choices. Take it slowly. Add one fish at a time and wait to make sure you can maintain a healthy tank before adding more fish.
The planning will pay off, and this hobby will be more rewarding for you!
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ThRoewer
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Didn't you listen what I said: NO Tangs until you can afford a appropriately large tank.
If I really wanted to have ich problems, I would go and get a hippo tang. It is one of the worst ich bombs around and needs a really big tank. Plus it gets large enough to serve a family of 4 as dinner.
My recommendation would be to stick with small fish that are interesting in behavior and work your way up to larger fish slowly.
If you rush things you will just get more diseases and fish losses.
ClownFishGuy6
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Yeah lol my dad has 2 but he has a 155 gallon tank.
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Yeah lol my dad has 2 but he has a 155 gallon tank.
I see where you got your concept of what works; why ask questions of folks with decades of experience when you are going to do what you want in any case? Perhaps this hobby is not for you.
Just stay away from tangs and angels. Try some clownfish, gobies, dartfish, grammas, cardinals, etc. Treat the fish you have, and wait to add others until you are sure the disease is gone. This hobby is not for everyone. It takes patience, money, and lots of research. A healthy and thriving saltwater tank does not happen overnight. It takes months, if not years to accomplish. Read, read, read! And never stop learning. That is also what this hobby is about. Some of us do not give the same advice, but we try to help share our experiences with you to save you a lot of headache. Good luck!
ThRoewer
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A 155 is still too small to satisfy the swimming needs of tangs. 250 is what should be considered the bare minimum.
Deinonych
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This. I started my tank over 3 years ago, and I'm just now nearly fully stocked with fish (corals are another story). Nothing good happens fast in this hobby.
I do the flush method. At the first sign of Ich I simply let it run its course and soak food with vitamins letting the fish's natural immune system fight it off on their own. I then vacuum my sand every 5 days for 6 weeks till I've essential changed out the entire volume of water many times over and sucked the tomonts out. I do not quarantine. This was recommended to me by a husbandry staff member at Monterey Bay Aquarium, CA. Can't say it's the best method, but I've been Ich free for a year. Knock on wood.
iluvmyfishes
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You can try making your tank a "fish only" tank. Take all the inverts out. Get all the fish that you want. Then treat the tank like a QT (medicate) so all your fish are/get healthy. Once you have a healthy tank and healthy fish keep that going for at least a few months. Then you can take the next step but always remember to quarantine everything, even corals and make sure all the meds are out of your system and the tank is staying disease free on it's own before adding the inverts back.
ThRoewer
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Free of parasites does not equal healthy!
Trying to keep a tank sterile like an ICU will spill disaster in the long run.
A healthy and fit fish should have an effective immune system that can fend off most small scale infections before they get out of hand.
I'm not sure your tank is ich free, but you likely have healthy fish.
CHSUB
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not to be rude, but this is, maybe, the dumbest method of ich control i have ever heard!!!! wasteing money on worthless vitamins, then vacuuming the sand 30 times over a 6 week period, changing the "entire volume of water many times over".....and the people at Monterey Bay Aquarium recommend this!!!!! what a joke!!!!! who were you talking to,the janitor???? and "to boot" imo, all this would not be very effective against ich.....
ThRoewer
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It is actually a recommended method by ich researchers - for commercial food fish farms with large raceways and direct access to the ocean.
For the Monterey Bay Aquarium this works well too as they have direct access to the ocean - they can flush their tanks daily if they want.
The sand exchange also works to keep the parasite numbers low. Cryptocaryon likes to encyst on coral gravel and sand, but not so much on glass or plastic. So by adding a layer of coral sand and exchanging it every 3 days you will likely get a lot of cysts out of the tank.
But all this is more suited to commercial operations with many fish and where TTM or chemicals are not an option.
In general it is enough to keep you fish in a low stress environment and feed them well and let their immune system take care of the rest - it works for me and many others. I may add some Selcon to their food once in a while, but that's not for ich defense.
The key is also to meet the fish's social needs - I try to keep all my fish in pairs or groups.
And of course quarantine well for a long time and never put a visibly sick fish in your tank.
And foremost: avoid all Acanthuridae in tanks below 500 gallon!
If you can not constrain yourself on the fish you put into your tank you have to follow a strict quarantine protocol with fallow period and religiously executed TTM to keep the parasite ever getting into your tank.
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