Lavoisier
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Mosquito load?
In-wall 380gal tank - cut out options
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Mosquito load?
karimwassef
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Here's the original baseline again (pic got lost)
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karimwassef
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Mosquito load- yeah. I live by a lake in TX and since my tank main is in my garage, opening the garage doors in the evenings invites swarms of bugs.
The DT, sump, and aux tanks get smothered in bugs. I scoop them up with a net but it was a lot of P and N load. I have massive spiders and lizards coming in to feast on the bio load!
Anyway, I thought my skimmer could keep up but I needed regular water changes.
With the winter coming, I thought they'd slow down but no luck yet. It's warm in TX until Jan and then it'll only last till March or so.
The DT, sump, and aux tanks get smothered in bugs. I scoop them up with a net but it was a lot of P and N load. I have massive spiders and lizards coming in to feast on the bio load!
Anyway, I thought my skimmer could keep up but I needed regular water changes.
With the winter coming, I thought they'd slow down but no luck yet. It's warm in TX until Jan and then it'll only last till March or so.
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karimwassef
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Already seeing a problem with the new surge slit...
The flow is too directed downwards and while it's not causing a sand storm, the sand is slowly moving into dunes. In a day, I expect to see bare bottom in one area.
The opposite surge has a platform under it so it doesn't have the same issue.
The flow is too directed downwards and while it's not causing a sand storm, the sand is slowly moving into dunes. In a day, I expect to see bare bottom in one area.
The opposite surge has a platform under it so it doesn't have the same issue.
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Not sure if it's visible in these pics, but the dunes are starting to form
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guserto4
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It looks like you ought to have the slotted pipe flipped- smallest holes at the far end near the cap, largest right out of the 90. Maybe a smaller slot?
Hmmm.
Oh also, what if you didn't cut the slot all the way through so the end of the pipe still was complete and kept it's integrity to fit better with the cap?
Hmmm.
Oh also, what if you didn't cut the slot all the way through so the end of the pipe still was complete and kept it's integrity to fit better with the cap?
Looks like you 'bout got 'er done! Nice!
karimwassef
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Decided to go a different direction with my kalkwasser stirrer. The magnetic stirrer gets stuck too often and is unreflective with a large amount of kalkwasser powder:
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$13 motor, $10 control board (optional), $6 power supply
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$13 motor, $10 control board (optional), $6 power supply
karimwassef
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Still need to water test...
karimwassef
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Also decided to go DC motor for my return water wave alternator.
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2 RPM
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2 RPM
karimwassef
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Also going with a DC solenoid for my kalkwasser flow. This release RODI water into the reactor:
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The solenoid gets hot so I attached a 40mm DC fan to it. Also, the plastic fittings didn't fit (even though NPT and MIP are supposed to fit). Hence all the goop to seal it. It's gravity feed so I think it'll be ok.
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The solenoid gets hot so I attached a 40mm DC fan to it. Also, the plastic fittings didn't fit (even though NPT and MIP are supposed to fit). Hence all the goop to seal it. It's gravity feed so I think it'll be ok.
Careful with that. You could cause a tear in the space-time continuum or something with that wave water alternator. Then you got you some chaos…
Lavoisier
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Nice diy (I saw your kudos to Insomniac). If I had not already picked up a used one some time back this would be my next project! Why do you use pex pipe rather than rigid pvc?
How is the redirected surge coming?
karimwassef
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I wanted a thinner pipe and the DC motor clutch is only 6mm so even 1/2" PVC would have needed to many parts to connect.
The surge head with a slot wasn't doing much better than a round pipe in the same location, so I reverted back until I have a chance to rethink it. The basic problem is that water comes from one 2" pipe and wants to flow in the shape of that pipe unless I create baffles/separators. I even looked at getting a flared wet dry vaccum nozzle but I expect the result would be the same unless the slit is so thin to create enough back pressure so water flows out equally across the opening area.
I have a new idea but it's more complex and needs some proving... The water wants to continue to flow in the direction of the 2" pipe it came from and any attempt to redirect it only steals a small amount of flow. So instead of fighting this, I need to work with it. So...
Imagine if the 2" surge pipe come down to a horizontal pipe without openings. The pipe then goes back up in a 90 degree turn towards the surge container. It's connected to flexible tubing that goes up above the surge container. Since it's all primed, the water level in this hose would be the same as the surge container. Opening the surge valve would do nothing in this configuration.
Now, if I replace the horizontal pipe with Ts that have reduced outlets down, maybe 1". I think 4 of them would fit. Now, the surge force would be directed through the 2" pipe and up the hose until it reaches above the surge tank level. That's the main force I am trying to avoid coming out of one opening. Now, the horizontal Ts can flow more evenly down into the tank. That's the theory... But I'm still thinking aloud - no calcs yet.
The surge head with a slot wasn't doing much better than a round pipe in the same location, so I reverted back until I have a chance to rethink it. The basic problem is that water comes from one 2" pipe and wants to flow in the shape of that pipe unless I create baffles/separators. I even looked at getting a flared wet dry vaccum nozzle but I expect the result would be the same unless the slit is so thin to create enough back pressure so water flows out equally across the opening area.
I have a new idea but it's more complex and needs some proving... The water wants to continue to flow in the direction of the 2" pipe it came from and any attempt to redirect it only steals a small amount of flow. So instead of fighting this, I need to work with it. So...
Imagine if the 2" surge pipe come down to a horizontal pipe without openings. The pipe then goes back up in a 90 degree turn towards the surge container. It's connected to flexible tubing that goes up above the surge container. Since it's all primed, the water level in this hose would be the same as the surge container. Opening the surge valve would do nothing in this configuration.
Now, if I replace the horizontal pipe with Ts that have reduced outlets down, maybe 1". I think 4 of them would fit. Now, the surge force would be directed through the 2" pipe and up the hose until it reaches above the surge tank level. That's the main force I am trying to avoid coming out of one opening. Now, the horizontal Ts can flow more evenly down into the tank. That's the theory... But I'm still thinking aloud - no calcs yet.
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Went more rigorous on the high torque motor
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The old method of clamping resulted in very small shifts that caused the motor to turn over the period of a day.
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The old method of clamping resulted in very small shifts that caused the motor to turn over the period of a day.
karimwassef
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Updated kalkwasser reactor
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