Is this a superman monti?

[manderx]

and the coral browns out yet lives, do you still call it a superman monti? Do you sell frags of it as a superman monti even though it's now brown? This is where I really dislike the naming of corals, because on one hand ok sure it came from that specific colony, but it really doesn't look anything like other superman montis.

i think you are missing the whole point entirely. when i buy a named frag, i don't care what it looks like at that point in time. because i *know* what it has the genetics for looking like when returned to good conditions. with a named frag, i have probably seen dozens of pics of it in different tanks and know the range of morphologies it will probably take. with a newcomer fake imposter, i (A) have to rely on the judgement of the person selling it to me (who has a huge incentive to exaggerate and see things that may or may not be there), and (B) have no clue what changes it could probably make in my tank.

the last thing we need are clueless newbs slapping highly respected names on whatever coral they want, just because *they* think it looks maybe-kinda-similar. just look at any of the ID threads and you'll see that nobody can get close or even agree on a species, let alone a specific color morph within a species.

 

[EricBrian]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7601442#post7601442 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by manderx
i think you are missing the whole point entirely. when i buy a named frag, i don't care what it looks like at that point in time. because i *know* what it has the genetics for looking like when returned to good conditions. with a named frag, i have probably seen dozens of pics of it in different tanks and know the range of morphologies it will probably take. with a newcomer fake imposter, i (A) have to rely on the judgement of the person selling it to me (who has a huge incentive to exaggerate and see things that may or may not be there), and (B) have no clue what changes it could probably make in my tank.

the last thing we need are clueless newbs slapping highly respected names on whatever coral they want, just because *they* think it looks maybe-kinda-similar. just look at any of the ID threads and you'll see that nobody can get close or even agree on a species, let alone a specific color morph within a species.

I think that when somebody refers to a named coral, you can assume the look of the coral... not the exact look. Too many people are using the names for look alikes. And, they are not just newbies!

 

[Leopardshark]

the last thing we need are clueless newbs slapping highly respected names on whatever coral they want, just because *they* think it looks maybe-kinda-similar. just look at any of the ID threads and you'll see that nobody can get close or even agree on a species, let alone a specific color morph within a species. [/B]

Like calling superman monti, the montipora that I posted on the first pic right?

 

[Leopardshark]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7598825#post7598825 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Snausages01

Both are the same coral.

The first one looks like a sm, the second doesn´t even do it looks amazing.

But I think the whole point here is many people are selling named corals without being sure that it is not the corals it is supposed to be, but by doing that they can sell it a lot expensier.
If someone sells you a blue frag saying it is an oregon tort, you´ll probably buy it, but maybe it was a nice blueish coral which is not worth what you paid.

 

[sfsuphysics]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7601442#post7601442 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by manderx

the last thing we need are clueless newbs slapping highly respected names on whatever coral they want, just because *they* think it looks maybe-kinda-similar. just look at any of the ID threads and you'll see that nobody can get close or even agree on a species, let alone a specific color morph within a species.

So who's more clueless then? The person who sees a particular coral that looks similar say its a superman, or the person who plunks down a small ransom on something based upon name of a coral if they are unable to identify what they're buying. How does the saying going? Caveat Emptor?

I do understand your desire for a world where everything is named honestly and the such, but how do others know that there's some unwritten rule that you don't call a coral a particular name?