Is this GBTA a goner?

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perseus

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I have a 90 bowfront that I setup in mid April. The last water change was approx 3 1/2 weeks ago and I also changed the carbon in my fluidize reactor. I have two Ocellaris hosted in the GBTA. I added the 2nd Ocellaris and GBTA a little over a month ago and everything was fine. My SPS are growing and everything else in the tank seems to be doing fine.

I feed the tank once daily mysis shrimp and about 3x per week cyclopeeze.

I have 2 sea stars, 2 sea cucbumbers, a few snails, a yellowhead jawfish, tomini tang, tank bred Springeri pseudochromis, lawnmower blenny, and a pincushion urchin.

All of my water parameters seem good and I keep the water temp between 77.8 and 79.2. I have a protein skimmer rated for a 120 and am also using phosphorous in another fluidize reactor.

I have two Koralia rated at 1200gph each.

Any help is appreciated!
 
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I'm waiting on my RODI to produce enough water for a 20% change. Meanwhile, I've given the GBTA more light and warmed the tank up to 79.9 degrees. It seems to be recovering as it is constricting its mouth and looking healthier for now.

This was coming out of its mouth, but it was pulled back in:


Looking a bit better:

 
the second set of pics look alot better than the first one

i wonder why its sticking to the glass wall instead of finding a knook in the rocks.

since you have sps corals & they're growing, i'm sure your water's fine. have you been feeding it? i've read that anemones w/ short tentacles means that its been ingesting itself since its not getting enough food from the lights.
 
It is actually stick to the back plastic where the overflow is. I've been feeding the tank and some of the food to it, but I think that it didn't get enough. It had fairly long tentacles about two days ago and are still long when they inflate.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10519015#post10519015 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by han012
the second set of pics look alot better than the first one

i wonder why its sticking to the glass wall instead of finding a knook in the rocks.

since you have sps corals & they're growing, i'm sure your water's fine. have you been feeding it? i've read that anemones w/ short tentacles means that its been ingesting itself since its not getting enough food from the lights.
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I've watched him deflate before for a few hours at most. This started yesterday and continued through today. I'm hoping he may get better tonight after the water change.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10519095#post10519095 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gary Majchrzak
Anemones routinely deflate. I wouldn't change anything just yet.
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You could always try feeding it different kinds of seafood like shrimp, clams, squid, etc from your grocery store for more vitamin/nutrients. Mine loves shrimp, scallops, and clam pieces soaked in vitamins.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10519015#post10519015 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by han012
since you have sps corals & they're growing, i'm sure your water's fine.
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Nope...not necessarily. I have had an anemone die on me due to the water I was using in the same tank with growing sps. Anemones are more sensitive to water quality than sps.
 
I appreciate all the help so far. Even if he doesn't make it, hopefully this helps someone. I finished the water change about an hour ago and added some Seachem vitamins to the water.

These pictures were taken approximately 5 minutes apart. As you can see, it is rapidly losing its grip.





The thing I don't get is that it isn't deteriorating at all. Should I remove it from the water once it falls?
 
Yeah, I recently changed to Seachem Matrix carbon. I had just changed it with the last water change 3 1/2 weeks ago.
 
i can't give you a source for this, but i remember somebody saying that carbon may very rapidly lose its sequestering ability in high concentration environments, and may even leach stuff back into the water if it was used in high concentration (sequestered a bunch) and then stayed there in low concentration (the stuff went away, so now it comes back in a fashion reminiscent of osmosis).

you are also only changing water monthly?

just a thought--wait for confirmation maybe--that some small (5? 10?) water changes would help, as well as new carbon.

good luck!

tim
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10519255#post10519255 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pbukow
You could always try feeding it different kinds of seafood like shrimp, clams, squid, etc from your grocery store for more vitamin/nutrients. Mine loves shrimp, scallops, and clam pieces soaked in vitamins.
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While feeding the anemone is a very good idea, buying the food from the grocery store is a very bad idea. They add preservatives to our food, like phosphates, that may not be good for our animals.
 
Hogwash. I've always fed my anemones fresh seafood from the grocery store.
It's also my experience that anemones can fare very well in water conditions that stunt coral growth (ie: high phosphates and nitrates).
What lighting is on this aquarium?
I agree with it's owner that it may have been fed too little too late. Anemones are slow to show warning signs of being in trouble. If it starts to fall apart it's time to remove it.
 
hmm...not hogwash. depends on what you buy...let me clarify those two statements (pre-apologies if put words in your mouths)...

i go to the korean store, because i can get fresh frozen seafood MIX without any preservatives. you can go to your store and get fresh and fresh frozen from the seafood counter (in most cases).

if either of us go to the frozen food aisle, we are likely to buy a stouffer's mix of shrimp, clams, phosphate and red dye no. 5.

does that make sense? are both sides ok with that description? i think we may have left off a few words and hopefully didnt hurt perseus' chances or thread.

HEY PERS...does he look slimey or full of mucous? when he does, you have to pull him out and sniff it. if he stinks, he doesnt go back in the water.

i hope it doesnt come to that...

good luck...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10528444#post10528444 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by timrandlerv10
i go to the korean store, because i can get fresh frozen seafood MIX without any preservatives. you can go to your store and get fresh and fresh frozen from the seafood counter (in most cases).

if either of us go to the frozen food aisle, we are likely to buy a stouffer's mix of shrimp, clams, phosphate and red dye no. 5.

does that make sense?
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The point is it's what you buy that's important- not where you buy it.

Grocery stores (and LFS's) usually offer a lot of poor food choices right alongside the good stuff.
 
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