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What is the difference between the live rock and the 2.1 live rock? I have read multiple pages of this thread and checked out TBS and walt's site but didnt see any specifically on it. Or at least i didnt think i did.
 
TillerysTank said:
Awesome product. Hope i can get my hands on some soon

liverock,
not sure if this is the best way to contact you but i have been reading one of you most recent threads and it all looks outstanding.

I am doing my first ever saltwater tank. it will be a 180gall 72x24x24 in tank with a separate refug and sump.

I like the idea of the package but the price tag is,well, lets say i had to pause a moment. Ha. I completely understand it though. this really is a premium and environmentally safe product. It is safe to say it is out of my budget though with all the other start up purchases.

I was just wondering if you had any recommendations for someone in my position who was interested in you product. just purchase the rock itself? Or should i just go with some cured rock i can find locally and "fluff" the tank with yours?

any Tips or recommendations would be great Thanks and congrats on such an outstanding product.

Corey
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I would recommend getting much of your rock from Bulk Reef Supply or Marco Rocks. It's cheap, it's high quality, and it's porous (which means the weight will go way down on shipping and porous is better anyways). Then buy the biggest Package you can comfortably afford from Richard and use it to "seed" your dry rock from Marco or Bulk Reef Supply.

Cured rock from your LFS is going to be more expensive than Richard's live rock, and is usually low quality.
 
@liverock I don't see where pricing guide shows the price of dry reef rock 2.1 (not live). I see pukani as the only option for dry rock.
 
TillerysTank said:
What is the difference between the live rock and the 2.1 live rock? I have read multiple pages of this thread and checked out TBS and walt's site but didnt see any specifically on it. Or at least i didnt think i did.
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The basic live rock is regular old reef rock like you're used to seeing, but maricultured off of Tampa Bay. It is the rock you see in this thread and it looks amazing.

The Walt Smith is a man-made rock of similar materials and look to natural reef rock. It is maricultured the same way in the same plot off Tampa Bay.

In effect, they are the same rock. What separates them is that Walt Smith's is easier on the reefs and (according to Richard) takes on "life" faster. Since he drops them in for a few months before collecting, the Walt Smith 2.1 is preferable because it will get more "life" on it in six months than the natural rock will.
 
another option

another option

Chibils said:
I would recommend getting much of your rock from Bulk Reef Supply or Marco Rocks. It's cheap, it's high quality, and it's porous (which means the weight will go way down on shipping and porous is better anyways). Then buy the biggest Package you can comfortably afford from Richard and use it to "seed" your dry rock from Marco or Bulk Reef Supply.

Cured rock from your LFS is going to be more expensive than Richard's live rock, and is usually low quality.
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Look into the 20> Pukani rock get some real nice pieces say three of them and then some 20< rock for the rest, the shipping is cheaper on the dry stuff you can play around with glue it together than order the live rock and from TBS
 
Well, I picked up my package about 2pm, it's now 6:30, I'm home and fed. Time to started! I'll post unboxing pics later.

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Ok everyone, here are the unboxing/preclearing shots!! This rock is amazing! You can hardly see the actual rock through all of the life!

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Boxes opened, let's look inside!

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Rock box one (sadly I forgot to take a picture of these out of the bag... I guess I got carried away lol.

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Rock box two! Man, these rocks are sweet! And think, I've only gotten half of them!

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Rock box two out of the bag before the tank

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Sand box! I did open and install this first for the record lol. Check out who we found chilling in the sand!

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Here comes sand in the tank, wow that water got murky quick!

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Rocks are in the tank, but here are just a few of the guys who fell off before being put into the tank.

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Well, that's it for now. I'll take a FTS when the water clears, the scape is just piled in for now... I'll do something with it tomorrow when I can see into the tank lol.
 
Chibils said:
I would recommend getting much of your rock from Bulk Reef Supply or Marco Rocks. It's cheap, it's high quality, and it's porous (which means the weight will go way down on shipping and porous is better anyways). Then buy the biggest Package you can comfortably afford from Richard and use it to "seed" your dry rock from Marco or Bulk Reef Supply.

Cured rock from your LFS is going to be more expensive than Richard's live rock, and is usually low quality.
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OK great. I didnt even know that BRS had rock. I was already looking to place an order with them for a ro/di system. Looks like they have a handful of different styles. i have never aquascaped. Any suggestions? and do these need to be cured?

i think seeding the BRS rock may be the way i will go.
 
TillerysTank said:
OK great. I didnt even know that BRS had rock. I was already looking to place an order with them for a ro/di system. Looks like they have a handful of different styles. i have never aquascaped. Any suggestions? and do these need to be cured?

i think seeding the BRS rock may be the way i will go.
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I totally forgot Richard sold dry rock too - I'd look into the Pukani he's got, as it's good rock.

As for aquascaping, I'd suggest going to a few different reef forums and look at aquascaping threads. There are a lot of styles out there, from rock walls to minimalist, islands and pillars. Its easy to just pile rock in there, so think about negative space (open space, or swimming space) as your eye will be drawn equally to the places that there aren't rock. I'd plan out what you can with the dry rock first, try to make a structure with both differing height and depth, and add some kind of "flow" in the shapes. You can always take a hammer and chisel to the dry rock to get shapes you need.
 
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Chibils said:
I totally forgot Richard sold dry rock too - I'd look into the Pukani he's got, as it's good rock.

As for aquascaping, I'd suggest going to a few different reef forums and look at aquascaping threads. There are a lot of styles out there, from rock walls to minimalist, islands and pillars. Its easy to just pile rock in there, so think about negative space (open space, or swimming space) as your eye will be drawn equally to the places that there aren't rock. I'd plan out what you can with the dry rock first, try to make a structure with both differing height and depth, and add some kind of "flow" in the shapes. You can always take a hammer and chisel to the dry rock to get shapes you need.
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Yup..got a little bit LOL

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2504407

Richard TBS
www.tbsaltwater.com :spin2::spin2::spin2:
 
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