ivermectin for the treatment of RB's

clkwrk

clkwrk

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I am curious if anyone has thought about using or has used this drug for red bug erradication?

I recently discovered a LFS with RB's and I told them . I went in there today and no rb's to be seen anywhere . I asked if interceptor was used he said no I used ivermectin as recommended by a wholesaler.

Here is a link describing the drug

is also way cheap

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_ivermectin.html
 
it was in a syringe and was for horses . He said he winged it on dosage. I will see if I can get some more info from him .
 
Heh great... that's totally something you should be "winging it" about... it'd be interesting to find out though, if there can be an alternate medication, as it does seem it kills similar types of animals.
 
Agree he said winged it and you should have seen my facial expression . But it was in a qt tank and not a display . BTW it was a LFS and if he didn't get rid of them he was going to trash all the corals and wait a bit to get more.
 
just sharing also . Last week I was looking for Interceptor but it seems hard to get online and someone told me to call a animal shelter and asked if they have the pill and told the lady I need an interceptor and she said they dont have one but they have HARTGARD she said its the same pill they gave for dogs. But ofcourse didn't take the pill cuz not sure of what will be the outcome. I end up getting Interceptor from a fellow reefer. just sharing or maybe someone used HARTGARD before and might post some procedure if it does work.. thanks
 
just use the interceptor.. I just treated my whole tank with no negative effects other than the expected effects. and the corals look unbelieveably better. I wish i would have taken before and after pics. in fact it was so easy I may make this a bi annual maintainance routine..
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7848548#post7848548 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by poknsnok
just use the interceptor.. I just treated my whole tank with no negative effects other than the expected effects. and the corals look unbelieveably better. I wish i would have taken before and after pics. in fact it was so easy I may make this a bi annual maintainance routine..
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I will take Eric Bornemans advice over yours. Sorry INterceptor shouldn't be used in a display yeah it can be but the full extent of the damage to the eco system in our tanks hasn't been proven . All though it has been proven to kill a large majority of creatures.

Also yeah interceptor works but not everyone can get it . So it would be nice if something else worked beside TMPCC and interceptor.

So if you don't have anything constructive to add keep it to yourself. I am well aware of interceptor and am no noob .....
 
why would you think what I added wasnt constructive??

what I added is very constructive. first hand experience is what I offered. Interceptor is PROVEN to be effective and the overwhelming feedback on these forums is it is effective and safe.. You can see that for yourself. I believe the real reason is you are fond of your acro crabs and dont want to risk losing them which.. is fine... And pods can be replenished very quickly. Regardless of what Mr Borneman say I think you will find if you conduct your own poll that experiences with interceptor are overwhelmingly positive.. some more constructivemess... take a chill pill because I only offered my experiences.
 
Well basically we're looking for a way to kill the RBs and not the beneficial microfauna. If there's an alternate medication that does just that... well we'll have to explore and experiment!
 
Also post a poll and see who has done full tank treatments and never had a cyano problem that hung around afterwards.

Seriously everyone who treats their display must have no problem killing off . Not only do you not get a 100% gaurantee that you get a 100% kill rate plus you kill amphipods, shrimps, lobsters, crabs, polychaetes, nematodes, copepods, and possibly other invertebrates which have not been tested for toxicity to the drug. That alone is enough to make the responsible reefkeeper want to find another way .

Also another reason for finding something else is because not everyone can get interceptor so it would be nice to have an alternative to use in a QT tank . Am I right or wrong.

And I feel E. Borneman has a better grasp on the micro life in our tanks than most people know about their own corals.

Also you say SAFE ......What makes it safe if it kills your creatures........Dosen't sound safe to me .


As for the non constructive comment ........If you would have worded it different it would not have been taking as you were talking down to me for looking for another useful drug ....
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7853619#post7853619 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clkwrk
Also post a poll and see who has done full tank treatments and never had a cyano problem that hung around afterwards.
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Let's also make sure that those who are telling us all about it have actually done it themselves, too ;)

I know Eric hasn't ...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7853619#post7853619 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clkwrk
Also another reason for finding something else is because not everyone can get interceptor so it would be nice to have an alternative to use in a QT tank . Am I right or wrong.
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Another prescription vet med IMO is not any easier to get.
Esp when interceptor is just an online order away ... I guess I just don't understand what's so hard to get about it.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7853619#post7853619 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clkwrk
As for the non constructive comment ........If you would have worded it different it would not have been taking as you were talking down to me for looking for another useful drug ....
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Some might see it as reinventing the wheel ... either way, negativity is a poor response.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7853619#post7853619 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by clkwrk
Also post a poll and see who has done full tank treatments and never had a cyano problem that hung around afterwards.

Seriously everyone who treats their display must have no problem killing off . Not only do you not get a 100% gaurantee that you get a 100% kill rate plus you kill amphipods, shrimps, lobsters, crabs, polychaetes, nematodes, copepods, and possibly other invertebrates which have not been tested for toxicity to the drug. That alone is enough to make the responsible reefkeeper want to find another way .

Also another reason for finding something else is because not everyone can get interceptor so it would be nice to have an alternative to use in a QT tank . Am I right or wrong.

And I feel E. Borneman has a better grasp on the micro life in our tanks than most people know about their own corals.

Also you say SAFE ......What makes it safe if it kills your creatures........Dosen't sound safe to me .


As for the non constructive comment ........If you would have worded it different it would not have been taking as you were talking down to me for looking for another useful drug ....
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The poll is open for all experiences. as you can see. anyone is free to comment on their positive and negative experiences. I read a lot of threads on RC and see your posts frequently. am I amiss to say the reason you are looking for an alternative way to kill red bugs because of your acro crabs, not necessarily the pods etc.? and if I begin to experience cyano/algae/nitrate/phosphate/ etc problems at any time, I will let you know. sorry you percieved me as talking down to you. Thats the thing about emails, you can easily misunderstand or be misunderstood. Cheers
 
My experience with Ivermectin is that it is practically insoluble in water.....not sure if this would be a good candidate for reef pest removal.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7855111#post7855111 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjackson
ah who knows erics tank didnt fair to well
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he didn't treat his tank ;) and I just noticed he tired ivermectin in a qt .
 
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Mark I had not known Eric hasn't done a full tank treatment test but it really wouldn't matter as the same creatures are affect weather in you tank or in a qt .


I am able to get this drug without a perscription at my local feed store and its cheap. BTW I have no problems getting interceptor but I have 3 large dogs also . Also not everyone likes buying online .

poknsnok- I am not looking for anyway to treat my red bugs you got me all wrong. My red bugs are staying and I am not looking for anything for myself. I was looking for info and experience if any . The blanket comment about just use interceptor had nothing to do with ivermectin. Obviously if you have seen my posts and now about my rbs and acro crabs then why point out interceptor .........You obviously know I know it works but I choose not to use it in my display for many reasons.....

In the end the point of this thread is to see if it works not what workes better than it . How many drugs were used before interceptor was accepted as working ? There were alot . Why did it stop there . Shouldn't it have kept going to find out whatelse may work ? If there was a drug that got them but left some of the creatures that interceptor kills without kill anymore . I think that would be great . What if it killed AEFW during a test by someone? Again I think its worth a talk .
 
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