Jon in SW Ohio
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So THAT'S why they call them Non-Indo lords...good to know.
'jap' as a reference
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enitnelaVeyaF
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let's be honest, no ones wants to type out the full word of anything nowadays. sure 'acan' for acanthastrea, monti for montipora, but jap for japanese is just not an acceptable shortening. i dont think a slur should be OK to use because it's just easier than typing out a longer word. 
it doesnt matter if a derrogatory word doesnt offend you, it's still derrogatory. a white person saying nothing offends them is no news. im white and am not offended by white trash, white bread, cracker, honkey, etc but that doesn mean i have the right to use terms that refer negatively towards others.
im glad some other people see things the same way.
i didnt mean to start a war. im suprised it's lasted this long without being talked about.
it doesnt matter if a derrogatory word doesnt offend you, it's still derrogatory. a white person saying nothing offends them is no news. im white and am not offended by white trash, white bread, cracker, honkey, etc but that doesn mean i have the right to use terms that refer negatively towards others.
im glad some other people see things the same way.
i didnt mean to start a war. im suprised it's lasted this long without being talked about.
musty baby
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^^^
I giggled a little at the thought of a future snow-white coral "LE Cracker Acro"
It's got a nice (well, fun anyway) ring to it :rollface:
smcnally
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Look guys (and ladies), all I'm saying is that I personally don't understand why people get so offended by certain words. I'm not saying you shouldn't, I just don't understand why people don't understand that a lot of people don't know certain words offend certain people. Here's a great example. I was in the Air Force for 7 years, and before I joined, I called anyone that looked Asian "Oriental". I had no idea it offended people, it was what my dad called them, and what everyone else where I grew up called asian people. I now know it offends people so I don't use it, although it does slip every now and then as a way to describe someone, because it was a word I learned from such a young age. I also knew a guy in the Air Force that grew up in an area where black people were called the "N" word on a daily basis. He had a hard time not saying that word when describing a person of that race. As a result he got beaten up pretty bad on a few occasions. So you tell me...Who's the bad person in that scenario? The guy who is uneducated and calls black people that word because he was taught his whole life that it is what they are called? Or the guy that beat the crap out of him because he was offended? That's an extreme example, but what I'm trying to get at is that most (not all) of the time, people say these words out of ignorance, or because of the way the community they grew up in used certain words. If someone says something that isn't meant to offend, then there is no reason to get offended.
I guess I was just trying to say that this world would be a much better place if people wouldn't get so offended all the time. The racial rules go both ways...People should refrain from using certain words when they know it offends others. But people should also understand that not everyone knows certain words offend them, and should just chaulk it up as a case of ignorance.
FWIW, I actually am a very PC guy. I have to be with the work I do, and I have fortunately learned through my years in the military what offends most people.
I guess I was just trying to say that this world would be a much better place if people wouldn't get so offended all the time. The racial rules go both ways...People should refrain from using certain words when they know it offends others. But people should also understand that not everyone knows certain words offend them, and should just chaulk it up as a case of ignorance.
FWIW, I actually am a very PC guy. I have to be with the work I do, and I have fortunately learned through my years in the military what offends most people.
chrisstie
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It's in the LPS forum because the topic was about japanese brains- which is a form of LPS.
I think Im with smcnally on this one. Hell, I'm only 23, I am living in an era where the only reason I am aware of the word being a slur is because my dad is an old man born in 39 and could pass on the fact it was a slur from I guess around the WWII era. Does it date back further? I don't know.
In any event, yes people do have choic words for whites. Try being one of the few females who studies computer engineering when the majority of the students are male and generally speaking usually asian or indian when you get into the upper level classes. I can give you a few white slurs in a few different languages lol - but of course I never learned them with discrimination- more of a culture sharing.
I also would never call someone a slur - and if i did i'd make sure it was under my own roof where no one could hear me! - I am not out to offend people but when people type stuff like
"lol wut u up 2?" and "a/s/l" .. I can definitely see on the internet of all places "jap" simply being an abbreviation.
If you get offended by it in reference to a coral, imo, you're either a) old from the generation that learned the slur back in WWII or wherever it came from or b ) need to loosen up and worry about "racism" when it actually applies to a situation where its being used in a derogatory sense.
In any event.. still want a japanese brain coral /drool
I think Im with smcnally on this one. Hell, I'm only 23, I am living in an era where the only reason I am aware of the word being a slur is because my dad is an old man born in 39 and could pass on the fact it was a slur from I guess around the WWII era. Does it date back further? I don't know.
In any event, yes people do have choic words for whites. Try being one of the few females who studies computer engineering when the majority of the students are male and generally speaking usually asian or indian when you get into the upper level classes. I can give you a few white slurs in a few different languages lol - but of course I never learned them with discrimination- more of a culture sharing.
I also would never call someone a slur - and if i did i'd make sure it was under my own roof where no one could hear me! - I am not out to offend people but when people type stuff like
"lol wut u up 2?" and "a/s/l" .. I can definitely see on the internet of all places "jap" simply being an abbreviation.
If you get offended by it in reference to a coral, imo, you're either a) old from the generation that learned the slur back in WWII or wherever it came from or b ) need to loosen up and worry about "racism" when it actually applies to a situation where its being used in a derogatory sense.
In any event.. still want a japanese brain coral /drool
antonsemrad
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"LE Cracker Acro"
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RichConley
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Intent doesnt matter?
So that means that All Delight's avatar is just as offensive as Jap, because it offends one of the other posters.
RichConley
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Have you ever been an irish guy in boston? How many bad movies set in boston do we have to sit through where Ben Affleck/Matt Damon/Mark Wahlberg plays some irish guy, gets drunk for most of the movie, and spends the rest either in church, or fighting?
Why is it that Notre Dame's Fighting Irish icon is fine, and yet some college just got sued by the NCAA because thier logo has feathers in it, and thats supposedly offensive to Native Americans. Why is it okay for Dave Chappel to use the word 'cracker,' but if Dane Cook ever used the N word, it would be a national media firestorm. Why does the NFL require each team to interview a minority before they hire a white candidate? All those are examples of racism against white people.
I dont see how this whole jap. brain thing is in any way different than using the work 'cracker' to refer to a cookie. They both can be construed as racial slurs, but arent being used as such.
jessp
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i'm more offended by people buying corals they don't know how to take care of and killing them. than what people call them.
I think that people forget that people on reef central are good spirited and there is a comradary among all of us reefers. I have never seen any discrimination on these boards, in fact when people from other countries have issues with the english language i have seen people go out of there way to help understand and assist. (including japanese reefers)
for the record i'm italian-american, and not offended by sopranos, goodfellas, godfather, or super mario bros. I do love spaghetti, grandma, pizza and canolis.
I think that people forget that people on reef central are good spirited and there is a comradary among all of us reefers. I have never seen any discrimination on these boards, in fact when people from other countries have issues with the english language i have seen people go out of there way to help understand and assist. (including japanese reefers)
for the record i'm italian-american, and not offended by sopranos, goodfellas, godfather, or super mario bros. I do love spaghetti, grandma, pizza and canolis.
ReefDoctorMicromussas
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If the general un-coral-educated public heard us all drooling over the Japaneese brains I am just sure that they would misunderstand LOL
I like the name JAP ... so we will keep it OK?
I like the name JAP ... so we will keep it OK?
Fliger
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I guess it really comes down to how much you care about other people's feelings. If you really don't care that it bothers people's feelings - using Jap as a short term for Japanese, just as people have used it in a derogatory sense to refer to people or the their parents - you'll continue to use it. If you don't care about their feelings, you'll continue to use it. If you're doing it to prove a point at the expense of other's feelings, then I guess you'll use it. If you're doing it because you're too lazy to type 5 extra laters then I guess you'll use it. Either way, too bad for you. Most of use who have grown up hearing the term and others have just learned to tune you out.
The cracker comparison is a little different - in both senses Jap is used to refer to Japanese. A cracker being used in one sense is a white person and in another a cookie.
I mentioned before that I'm sure no one who's used the term meant it in a bad way. But now knowing that it bothers some people can't you just type five extra letters?
The cracker comparison is a little different - in both senses Jap is used to refer to Japanese. A cracker being used in one sense is a white person and in another a cookie.
I mentioned before that I'm sure no one who's used the term meant it in a bad way. But now knowing that it bothers some people can't you just type five extra letters?
redFishblue
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Not sure where you read it spelled japp, its always been spelled Jap.
You kind of kill you own argument there...both the Jap and Japanese were both used with derogatory meaning at the time....just as many other racial slurs have often been simply the name of the nationality. I'm sure anyone of Mexican heritage can tell you of the double edged nature of the term "Mexican"....the derogatory meaning is only in the context and not the specific word. There are many other slurs that I would say you have every right to be offended by since they only take on one meaning....Why should others have to feel restrained due to your unwarranted sensitivity.
But to be perfectly honest...I think the reason so many one RC just type "jap" because they can't spell Japanese...
Fliger
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I don't understand duec22, you're saying that "Japanese" is derogatory? The word Jap is a derogatory term, even defined as such in the dictionary. My wife is Mexican and proud to be called it. Call her a couple other choice terms and good luck to you. 
I don't think I've ever met a Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, Spaniard who was offended by the terms. LOL on the spelling though.
Anyway, I'm done here and unsubscribed. I do understand people's arguments. I just don't understand why its so hard to type 5 extra letters when it offends some people.
jamielind - its Jap, not Japp. Niger has a different annunciation. And negro is the name of a color, in a different language. An education is a wonderful thing.
See ya.
I don't think I've ever met a Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, Spaniard who was offended by the terms. LOL on the spelling though. Anyway, I'm done here and unsubscribed. I do understand people's arguments. I just don't understand why its so hard to type 5 extra letters when it offends some people.
jamielind - its Jap, not Japp. Niger has a different annunciation. And negro is the name of a color, in a different language. An education is a wonderful thing.
See ya.
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