'jap' as a reference
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You guys could always try typing "jp." It's shorter and less controversial. I don't really find "jap" offensive, but I do think it ends up reflecting somewhat negatively on the person using it.
As for these Japanese corals, maybe I'm looking in all the wrong places, but nothing in my tank seems to look as nice as most of the pictures I see on here....
As for these Japanese corals, maybe I'm looking in all the wrong places, but nothing in my tank seems to look as nice as most of the pictures I see on here....
redFishblue
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The accepted abbreviation for Japan is JPN and JP.
Some words are deemed offensive in and of itself.
All Delight
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8448559#post8448559 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by duec22
But to be perfectly honest...I think the reason so many one RC just type "jap" because they can't spell Japanese...
Thats got to be the lamest excuse I've heard yet.
All Delight
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Whether it is meant or not doesn't really matter. Its offends me either way.
At one time or another everyone has said something that was taken the wrong way. You might have said something but meant another. If the person you were talking to gets offended that makes them over sensitive?
If you've used the term and you've been following this thead then you know some people take it offensively, for whatever reason they have. If you want to continue using it and see no problem with it, then thats a clear picture of your character.
I'm with Fliger, done with this thread.
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i agree. when i read people using 'jap' it really makes me wonder if they've gotten an education outside american popular culture. just because its easy to type doesnt mean it OK to use. curse words can be easier to use than learning new words but that doesnt make it OK to use.
use jap if you want, it is a reflection on you.
seattlerob
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All Delight & Fliger: I agree with your points 100%. Frankly, I don't understand why there is so much debate over this subject. We all know why the term is considered offensive to many, so enough said!
tacocat
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It's not really used anymore (a godd thing), and I think many people actually forget it's considered a derogatory term. Only asian people, older folks, and historians tend to remember it's a derogatory term nowadays.
When a young person sees old WWII news clippings using the word jap, they don't realize that it is derogatory because of our current relations with the country of Japan. It's hard for many western youths to understand that Japan and it's people were hated and scorned. Many people don't know what Manzanar is or where it's located.
Jap was used widely during WWII. It was used to describe anyone of Japanese descent. It did not matter if they were Japanese-Americans or the citizens of Imperial Japan, they were all labeled as Japs.
This was extremely painful for Japanese-Americans who were loyal American citizens because they were descriminated against by their former neighbors. The Japanese-American citizens had their property confiscated and were placed into overcrowded internment camps. After the war, many Japanese-Americans were still descriminated against and they had to rebuild their lives from nothing.
The term Jap is a reference to these dark times in American history when blind descrimination was the order of the day. As such, many find it painful.
When I first saw jap being used, it caught my eye, but I did not find it offensive. It was not being used in a negative way, but the word itself does carry negative connotations and is a reference to the bitter past.
The English language is constantly changing. Perhaps we should embrace this new usage as a way to forget the pain and the hate. At one point in time, I was an ethnicity, now I'm a food choice at Denny's.
Meisen
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Agreed, its considered a slur by many so why be so inconsiderate? There are certainly examples of other slurs being used to describe objects/animals etc and those names are losing favor as well. In the piscines alone two come to mind:
Jewfish & Black Moor
now:
Goliath Grouper and Black Telescope
Jewfish & Black Moor
now:
Goliath Grouper and Black Telescope
dirtyreefer
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Well said Tacocat, Fliger and aSixyReef. I am with you and all your points mentioned.
So can I call my Niger my "Nig Trig"? If I created a thread with "Nig Trig" in it, you'd be sure to get some comments on it. It has nothing to do with people but a type of fish, however different people interpret things differently.
On public "family-friendly" boards like this, being politically correct is the best policy.
So can I call my Niger my "Nig Trig"? If I created a thread with "Nig Trig" in it, you'd be sure to get some comments on it. It has nothing to do with people but a type of fish, however different people interpret things differently.
On public "family-friendly" boards like this, being politically correct is the best policy.
dirtyreefer
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Thanks I got that, however if I just put "Nig" it wouldn't be read NYE, but Nig.
chrisstie
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This thread is reminding me of Clerks 2. Dante's friend decided he's going to "take back" a deragatory term for african americans because he called a little white kid the term...
It was very akin to calling the kid a little monkey, in which case little kids are like little monkies.. but yeah.. lol
The WHOLE point of this is you've gotta be rediculous to be offended when someone is simply abbreviating something for coral. it wasn't used offensively so if you need to get off in the internet animosity e-peen comparison thing, go find a different kind of forum.
It was very akin to calling the kid a little monkey, in which case little kids are like little monkies.. but yeah.. lol
The WHOLE point of this is you've gotta be rediculous to be offended when someone is simply abbreviating something for coral. it wasn't used offensively so if you need to get off in the internet animosity e-peen comparison thing, go find a different kind of forum.
redFishblue
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We are all stating our opinions which obviously differ but statements like "go find another forum" is not called for.
redFishblue
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We are all stating our opinions which obviously differ but statements like "go find another forum" is not called for. Also there is no need to get personal and call people that find the word offensive "rediculous".
The simple abbreviation for Japanese that you so seem to cherish is universally acknowledged as offensive by any dictionary you care to check out.
RichConley
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And I'm offended by you, your avatar, and your screen name. It doesnt matter whether or not their meant to be offensive.
My oppinion is just as valid as yours. If you ignore intent, then I can get offended at anything I want, and I'm always right, and you should have to change... and thats a slippery slope I dont want ot get anywhere near...
Jap wasnt meant to be offensive here. You people are just getting offended for the sake of being offended and indignant. Stop trying to be a victim.
redFishblue
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So if you said the "N" word, and a black person gets offended, are you telling me you would tell them "You people are just getting offended for the sake of being offended and indignant. Stop trying to be a victim".
We all realize that nobody was trying to be offensive when they used that word as an abbreviation. I am not trying to impugn the character of people here on RC at all. I am just flabbergasted that it seems so hard to get the point across that that word has long been deemed deragatory in this country. While you may say it with no malice, there are people who will hear it with all its historical and cultural baggage and so for the sake of civility, please refrain.
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