jason12345
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Anyone have any update on when these are available?
Jebao WP25 Information
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Cloudburst2000
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I just can't understand why some people are so up in arms about this pump or the WP40. If you haven't tried either or seen either, then you have no room to argue. I use an MP10 on my 16g nano and would buy another for a smaller nano as space is at a premium in such a small tank so the motor being outside the tank really helps in this aspect. I don't think this is much of an issue (at least for me) in larger tanks. That said my MP10 is no where near silent. I can hear it ramp and down from across the room. The sound does not bother me, but it certainly does bother some people. I don't own the WP40 but a friend does and I have seen his in action. It is a nice pump with tons of water flow. He was able to replace BOTH his MP40s with ONE WP40, and the WP40 is much quiter then his MP40s. He has not sold his MP40s yet. He is waiting a couple months to see how sturdy the WP40s prove to be, but if they last then he will sell the MP40s and make quite a bit of cash.
A less-expensive option does not necessarily mean something is cheap. Heck, even Vortechs wear out over time. My Vortech is 3yrs old and has already had to had the wet side replaced once. That cost me over $60 which is more expensive then a brand new WP25 even with shipping added. One of the reasons that the Jeboa pumps are less expensive is that they don't have all the controlability options that come with other high-end pumps. However, people have already addressed many of these issues by modding to the units and their components. If you think it costs Ecotech or Tunze anywhere near what they charge for the pump for them to build them, then you are nuts. They are making bank on every pump they sell because they have such a huge mark-up over what the pump cost to build. I believe Jeboa does not have anywhere near the mark-up on their pumps. Yes, I agree that they will not have the excellent customer service that some of the high-end manufacturers are known for, but if the Jeboa pumps prove to last and perform well, I am not willing to pay an extra $200 for an MP10 over a WP25 or an extra $400 for an MP40 over a WP40 just for top-notch customer service.
And yes, if these pumps do prove to do well in the long-term, it will DEFINITELY hurt Vortech/Tunze sales. I already know several people locally who were going to purchase MP40s, who decided to try the WP40s instead. They figured it was a good gamble at $100...even if the pump only lasted one year. They decided to save the extra $400 and upgrade other equipment like lights, skimmers, etc. And that was just in the Lexington area. If this is happening in every area of the country, you can better believe it is cutting into sales of 'high-end' pumps. I was also in the market for either an MP40 or two MP10s for my new build. I think I am going to try the WP25 instead. What can it hurt? If it doesn't work out, I'm only out $50 or so. If it does work out, then I have saved myself over $400. I'll take a chance like that. I'm going to use the $400 to get the LEDs I want for the build. I was just going to use my old MH fixture until I saved the money for the LEDs but I will now have enough money from the saving to go ahead and get the LEDs. It'll be a win-win situation for me. And I won't be in the market for the pumps until the summer or early fall so I'll be able to see how their performance is over several months. If they are still going strong when it comes time to buy, byebye Vortech and hello Jeboa.
A less-expensive option does not necessarily mean something is cheap. Heck, even Vortechs wear out over time. My Vortech is 3yrs old and has already had to had the wet side replaced once. That cost me over $60 which is more expensive then a brand new WP25 even with shipping added. One of the reasons that the Jeboa pumps are less expensive is that they don't have all the controlability options that come with other high-end pumps. However, people have already addressed many of these issues by modding to the units and their components. If you think it costs Ecotech or Tunze anywhere near what they charge for the pump for them to build them, then you are nuts. They are making bank on every pump they sell because they have such a huge mark-up over what the pump cost to build. I believe Jeboa does not have anywhere near the mark-up on their pumps. Yes, I agree that they will not have the excellent customer service that some of the high-end manufacturers are known for, but if the Jeboa pumps prove to last and perform well, I am not willing to pay an extra $200 for an MP10 over a WP25 or an extra $400 for an MP40 over a WP40 just for top-notch customer service.
And yes, if these pumps do prove to do well in the long-term, it will DEFINITELY hurt Vortech/Tunze sales. I already know several people locally who were going to purchase MP40s, who decided to try the WP40s instead. They figured it was a good gamble at $100...even if the pump only lasted one year. They decided to save the extra $400 and upgrade other equipment like lights, skimmers, etc. And that was just in the Lexington area. If this is happening in every area of the country, you can better believe it is cutting into sales of 'high-end' pumps. I was also in the market for either an MP40 or two MP10s for my new build. I think I am going to try the WP25 instead. What can it hurt? If it doesn't work out, I'm only out $50 or so. If it does work out, then I have saved myself over $400. I'll take a chance like that. I'm going to use the $400 to get the LEDs I want for the build. I was just going to use my old MH fixture until I saved the money for the LEDs but I will now have enough money from the saving to go ahead and get the LEDs. It'll be a win-win situation for me. And I won't be in the market for the pumps until the summer or early fall so I'll be able to see how their performance is over several months. If they are still going strong when it comes time to buy, byebye Vortech and hello Jeboa.
Ron Reefman
Active member
Cloudburst2000
well said. +1 :thumbsup:
I have 4 tanks and I want at least 5 of the WP25 pumps. The WP40 in my 180g is really more than I want. I'd rather have 2 WP25's instead. I have lots of flow already from a 2400gph sump pump with a SCWD and a 34oogph externeal pump running an OM4 and revolution heads in a CL.
well said. +1 :thumbsup:
I have 4 tanks and I want at least 5 of the WP25 pumps. The WP40 in my 180g is really more than I want. I'd rather have 2 WP25's instead. I have lots of flow already from a 2400gph sump pump with a SCWD and a 34oogph externeal pump running an OM4 and revolution heads in a CL.
dougdstecklein
New member
I am in the same boat. I like the wp40, but want to replace it with 2-3 wp25s, mainly because the flow in my tank is always in one direction. I am starting to wonder though, will I be able to get multidirectional flow with 2-3 wp-25s without a reef angel or apex controller. Else mode does not ramp down very much, so if I put one on each side of the tank, the flows will just be clobbering eachother at different intensities.
Can someone help me wrap my head around this. I want my soft corals moving in more than just one direction all day. How can this be achieved? If I need to buy a reef angel, so be it.
Can someone help me wrap my head around this. I want my soft corals moving in more than just one direction all day. How can this be achieved? If I need to buy a reef angel, so be it.
rrasco
Active member
I'd go with an RA so you have full control over what they do and are aware of their neighbors.
I know that people love the flexibility of MPs and Tunze but everytime someone posts a thread asking what people keep their settings on most, like 90%, use the same one or two settings with a note of "I tried them all the first week but went back to reef crest etc. and have left it there.".
Dapg8gt
New member
LOl I feel the same way. I just was trying to get a local group buy for the WP40 going and it was a lot of hassle to save just a few bucks. I ended up just buying 2 on eBay from Virginia so I actually have PayPal on my side IF it shows up damaged like a few others have and I should get it a lot faster. . $210 shipped. It was $99 each after shipping from the other place everyone is getting them.
Reeferz412
Coral Hoarder
I lurked for a while and this was when the WP40 was just released and they stated it was suction cups on the 25. I really hope you are right.
ChrisL1976
New member
Worse case scenario, buy a set of tunze magnets and epoxy one to the mount of the wp25. That sucker ain't going anywhere.
Reeferz412
Coral Hoarder
I have some hydor magnets laying around, i'm up for a project haha
Ron Reefman
Active member
If they have upgraded the controller to include a speed adjustment (not confirming it, just repeating what somebody else said) it would be hard to believe they would not have the magnet mount. But then it's not like any of us are adverse to doing a little after market upgrades, right?
ChrisL1976
New member
It would be nice if they would just sell the powerhead without the controller.
SimonSKL
New member
That's not a bad idea and sure won't cost them anything to offer just the pump. This sure will make those people with RA, APEX, and other DIY controllers happy.
I still can't calculate in my head how Jebao can make much profit with a $30 sale that includes the pump, controller, and a power supply! Any one of those three could cost that much alone.
