Jeremy's 250g build - Take II

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jtarmitage

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This thread has been long overdue, but better late than never. Thanks to the threat from a good friend of mine, that he’d feign sickness when I needed his help to move this beast into the house if I didn’t have a thread going by the end of the day, here it is.

Let me start out by saying that this tank was originally set up 11 months ago, for a total of 2 weeks, before we decided to sell our house and relocate, and, down came the tank. Well, 10 months on the market and we are still here. Maybe we won’t be moving after all. Soooo, the tank is going back up, with a few changes and in a different location however. As plans have changed, I’ve had to rework a few of the details and make a few changes in equipment, and a little poor planning on my part means most of the plumbing that was already done needs to be scrapped.

First, the tank design. I researched for several months before deciding on what I thought the end product should be. After having several tanks with internal overflow boxes and powerheads galore, I really wanted to minimize the equipment that intruded upon my undersea garden. That meant external overflow and a closed loop system. In discussion with Paul from Oceans Motions and James from Envision Acrylics, I designed a dual closed loop system. Thinking I may put an anemone or 2 in the tank, I decided to go with dual 2" drains on each to reduce the velocity of water entering the CL system(serious overkill, I know, I'm like that!):D Each CL would feed 4 1" returns, 4 from the front bottom of the tank on an OM 4 way, and 4 entering low on the back wall. The system return pump will also feed 4 1" returns near the top of the back wall that will be angled down. With the returns pushing down along the back wall, out from the bottom of the back wall, and using 45's from the front bottom, I am essentially creating a gyre effect, rolling the water in the tank.
Here is the sketchup model of what I had in mind:
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Now, I had James at Envision Acrylics build the tank. It is acrylic. I wanted a glass tank, but I always knew there was a possibility of moving and really didn't want to move a glass tank of this size more than once. I have also got a 2 yr old and a 6 yr old daughters, and felt more comfortable with the strength of the acrylic. The tank is 80" L x 24"D x 30" T, with 3/4" acrylic with a black back. James does some EXCEPTIONAL work. When it came time to actually build this thing, 1 very noticeable change was made. No coast to coast (Calfo) overflow. I decided that the plumbing was already going to be a major challenge, and decided to make my life a little bit easier and go with a center overflow. Here is a picture of the back of the tank:

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A shot from the side:
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And as you may notice by the layer of dust, it's been sitting in my garage for nearly a year:
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Finally, :D

I am so looking forward to this tank build. Your tank is awe inspiring and it has been a great time getting to know you better over the last few months.
 
As you may notice, I originally had planned to use a pair of 90 deg elbows with mesh tubing between each pair of CL intakes. This will soon be changed out with a different set of bulkheads for the CL intakes with a nearly flush mounted screen over each. I've got the parts, just not the time!:lol:
The real mistake that I made when originally setting up the tank, was that I did not put unions high enough on the CL and drain lines. The way it was, I could not take the tank off of the stand and set it down withouth the pipes being in the way. Hello Mr. Sawzall!:eek2: Take II will incorporate unions immediately, as well as flex PVC to make dealing with 2" pipe easier.

Well, the wife and kids are begging for dinner, so a brief intermission until later this evening when the kids aren't hanging on me while I type.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12647556#post12647556 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FUA
lokking forward to seeing your progress

Thanks FUA, me too! Again!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12647632#post12647632 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Marko9
Finally, :D

I am so looking forward to this tank build. Your tank is awe inspiring and it has been a great time getting to know you better over the last few months.

I guess there no point PMing you the link!:D
 
This is gonna be good by the looks of that plumbing! When I first saw that back side of the tank...phew! Keep us updated.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12647592#post12647592 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jtarmitage
Now, I had James at Envision Acrylics build the tank.

I got the chance to meet him a couple of weeks ago while helping John, (Yourreef), unload his new tank he built for him also.

Very nice guy, very knowlegable.:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
I saw you lingering around this section, chiming in on everyones tanks... Was kinda wondering when youd join in on the craziness. Looks like an awesome start, cant wait to see what you turn it into.
 
Thanks everyone, I'm a wee bit excited to finally get this thing up and running. I'll also finally get to park in my garage again, at least when I finally get all that stuff that was in storage put back away.

James is a great guy and actually delivered my tank to me for free when he came down to visit a friend. Now THAT is customer service!!! He also built a couple of other tanks for me including a sump, fuge and another small tank, but I'm going another direction and those don't seem to fit in at the moment.

I'm having a new sump built for me by a local friend that will be about 56 gallons, half of that for normal running operations. I will be plumbing a 55g fuge/RDSB plenum system, chiller, top off/water storage setup, and the Sequence 5800 that will power the dual CL's, into the garage, and I think everything else will go under the stand.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12648185#post12648185 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Acrylics
'Bout time Jeremy ;)
Looks good

James

Speak of the devil. You're telling me James. You know how hard it was to look at that beautiful tank sitting in the garage for nearly a year? Even though there is a chance the house will sell, I told my wife that I was done waiting as the odds were slim without a drastic price cut, which isn't gonna happen.
 
The stand and canopy were built by a semi local cabinet builder over in Guerneville, CA, which is near where I grew up. The deck of cabinet stands at 34". I would've liked to have gone a bit taller, since I'm 6'3", but that would've made maintainance even more of a bear as the tank is 30" tall.
The canopy has a flip front which maximizes access from the front, and has a pair of Icecap fans. Unfortunately, you'll all have to wait until tomorrow night to actually see the cabinetry as I can't get a picture of it where it stands. It's coming inside tomorrow with the help of Jim_S, tfp, and Marko9.

Lighting: The lights haven't been run for more than a couple of hours, and yet I'm completely redoing it. First of all, the current setup is 3 250w MH with LumenMax 3 DE pendants and 4 36" T5 actinics on Workhorse 5's. I have always run SE and VHO combos and have decided that is what I'd really rather have. I've now got an IceCap 660 that'll take care of the 2 6' VHO actinics, and I'm waiting for a trio of the new LumenMax Elite reflectors that I should get in a couple of weeks.
I have yet to decide which ballast to go with. I've got a dual Blue Wave VII HQI and a dual Galaxy electronic, as well as another single Galaxy. I plan on running the 250w Radium 20k's and figure I'll put a bulb on each ballast on the tank and decide from there. I know the HQI will give me higher PAR, but the PAR will be sufficient either way, so the appearance will be the governing factor. Add in the fact that the electronics will be more efficient and prolong the life of the bulbs. Decisions, decisions.

Flow: The original plan was to run a Sequence Snapper on each CL as well as the return pump. In order to keep things as quiet as possible, I wanted to put the CL pumps in the garage. A bit more plumbing, but quieter and the heat is outside. Not being thrilled with 2 sets of plumbing and punching even more holes in the wall, I decided to combine the CL's on a single pump. In comes the Sequence 5800.
As for the return pump, I scored on a NIB Red Dragon 8.2 M3 pump from a reefer here on RC. That will be my new return pump, and will, at least initially, be run internally in the sump. I may switch it to external later, but would rather not.
In addition, I've got a pair of Vortech MP40w's, a Tunze Wavebox, and am very interested in the new Tunze Stream 2's. Not sure if I'll keep the VT's, sell them and buy the new stream 2's, or run both. That'll be a decision for another day when there's actually water in the tank!:D
I had a wavebox intially, but since I was going with minimal equipment intrusion, I had decided to sell it and just use the VT's. Problem is, I really like the back and forth motion that you just can't replicate without the wavebox. So, I traded the 3rd VT I had for a NIB wavebox. Another score!
 
Next up, skimmer: Here is another change from the original, and now a change from the change. I started with a Foaminator 3000 from Austin Oceans, who now builds the Barr Aquatic skimmers and other equipment. It was an extremely well built beckett skimmer. I decided that I really didn't want to run another massive, power hungry pump, nor deal with the frequent cleanings of the becketts themselves. So, I sold that to Uhuru, but UPS managed to destroy it on it way up to Oregon. No idea how they managed it, as it was packed extremely well and I even had them look at it before sealing the box. Long story short, UPS denied the claim as improper packing, and I was out some 600 bones.
Next, I bought a Bubble King Deluxe 200 Internal. What can I say, simple awesome. Built better than every skimmer I've seen by a wide margin. Ended up throwing it into service on my, now rather large, temporary frag system. Skims like an absolute champ. So, why another change you ask? With the 250g DT, 30g or so sump, 55g fuge, and a 60g frag tank, I'm pushing the upper limits of the BK D200's range. I was thinking of using a 125g as the fuge, but think I've decided not to. The size of the system is one of only 2 reasons for the change. The other is that I've always wanted to run an external recirc that's being overflow fed. Until last week though, I was just going to stick with the BK and see how it went. The system was still within it's recommended range, but only just. Then up came a deal that I just couldn't pass up. An 8 month old H&S A200-2x1260 fell into my lap for a real bargain. I snatched it up, being the external recirc like I wanted, and allowing me a little more breathing room on the sizing range. I went ahead and just threw it on my frag/holding system to play with it. You can almost see the BK behind it in the sump.

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CaRX: I've got a Austin Ocean's MoCalc 300 dual chamber Calcium Reactor. Really like this thing. Don't have a pic at the moment, but will get one later.
Also have an AO Kalk Reactor model 3, that I'll use via a Liter Meter to dose during the night.

Controller: GHL Profilux Pus II EX Professional Plus WLAN, View II remote viewing panel, and the 4 fan propeller breeze. Still sitting in it's box. Can't wait to get it set up and play with it.

The 55g fuge/RDSB plenum tank is in the garage above the water system. A Spectrapure MaxCap 90gpd unit cleans up the water which is stored in a pair of 60g drums. One is for RO, and the other is for SW.

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