Just a few tips and tricks for those new to SPS and reefing....

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14758187#post14758187 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SunnyX
I wanted to add another thing that I do:

Since I run a bacteria driven system I cannot use a phosphate remover in my system. The bacteria need to be properly fed and I don't want anything to compete or hinder the bacterial growth.

So, what I do to prevent any PO4 from getting into the tank is I run a Phosban reactor with ROWAphos in my water holding container. I run the ROWAphos for three days on any new saltwater that will be used for a water change.

This way I can put less stress on my system and prevent any excess PO4 from getting into it.

One other thing I feel that needs to be adressed is proper feeding protocol:
From what I have seen and read, people overfeed their tanks. I feed my fish every other day. My fish are fat and happy, and I have never had any issues even with the Anthais I have. If you do not keep up with a means of waste export, such as PO$ remover, Bacteria/carbon dosing, or water changes you stand the risk of having reduced corals health and an algae outbreak.

Now, how much you feed your fish is just as important as how often. Some people feed their fish five times a day and their systems look great. I suspect that they are feeding very small amounts of food, or that they are diligent about exporting waste. Unfortunately, not all reefers are as diligent and they quickly end up having issue related to elevated waste.

For those who just cant get corals to grow or color up to the desired level I suggest that you rethink what,how, and when you are feeding.



This is a great point...I have been feeding alot and it seems my corals have slowly started to not grow! is this from overfeeding?
I run a skimmer 24/7 and do all the things you suggested including run a phosphate reactor! I have some big fish and want to see them happy but I may be over feeding...My system is 400 gallons including the refugium and sump. I have a few 13" fish and feed everyday including about 10 cubs of spurlina...how much do the bigger tanks get fed? how many fish?
 
the tips on the first page helped me so much i have noticedmy water is a ot clearer i have not crap on the bottom of the sump and because of this my phosphate and nitrat levels have dropped alot just wanted to say thankyou for the tips
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14783767#post14783767 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by affroalex
the tips on the first page helped me so much i have noticedmy water is a ot clearer i have not crap on the bottom of the sump and because of this my phosphate and nitrat levels have dropped alot just wanted to say thankyou for the tips

I am glad the tips worked out for you. :D
 
Hi all~

Generally the sump is divided by some parts. When I use powerhead in sump, I install all parts of sump or specific area is existed?

Thanks. :)
 
Regarding pellets I use Formula One and discontinued Spectrum pellets because they contain flour.
Great thread Sonny, lots of good points being made.
 
Isn't it remarkable the amount of recommendations you can get in one thread?

I don't do 90% of the stuff notes in this thread and my tank and all my SPS have never looked better than they they do today.

Show there are many ways to get the results you are looking for.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14797564#post14797564 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Oldude
Regarding pellets I use Formula One and discontinued Spectrum pellets because they contain flour.
Great thread Sonny, lots of good points being made.

Does flour have a negative impact on our systems?
 
Isn't it remarkable the amount of recommendations you can get in one thread?

I don't do 90% of the stuff notes in this thread and my tank and all my SPS have never looked better than they they do today.

Show there are many ways to get the results you are looking for.

Same here............most of these tips are good advice, but not necessarily needed.

The one I agree with the most is to design a plan & stick with it.

I've always kept it simple....... 10% weekly water changes & a skimmer. Nothing else & it's served me well.

By the way........my 16 year old purple tang has been eating Spectrum pellets almost exclusively for the past year & he has never looked better. He looks healthier fuller, & thicker than he has ever been. Before that he ate 85% Formula frozen foods, mostly 1&2. Maybe a combination of the two is the best bet, who knows.
 
I also have fed my fish Spectrum for about 6 years now and they have always been healthy. Does the flour effect the fish or the system?
 
It's another form of carbohydrates and don't know why it would have an adverse effect. I recently bought Coral Creole. I didn't realize it was 18 for a flat baggie.

I think most dry foods have 3% wt/wt phosphates whereas frozen rinsed foods are about 1/10th that. That might be the adverse effect but sounds like your doing great and some phosphates are needed.
 
Are far as fish health goes grain fillers aren't supposed to be good for the fish.

There's no question the Spectrum adds more phosphates to the water.........I noticed this after about 3-4 months, but it's not much of an issue for anyone with a good export system.
 
I do not know about much of flour good or bad. But I can attest to Big E's fish and coral health for I've seen the very apparent healthy and well established system.

I don't like flake food myself for the reason that it tends to bump phosphates a tad from what I've seen in my setup at least. I like it because of the engineered vitamins (think of it as millbrook wonder bread for fishies) that is purposly designed to bring about good fish health. Something that brine and scallops alone won't give you. I use these products for the vitamin reason but sparsely in my SPS systems to prevent the phosphate bump that pretty much all of the flake and pellet foods appear to cause. In some systems it doesn't mean a thing.

My no care or hands off system which is more of a fish only with liverock that has some softies in it that I rarely do more than topoff and change out carbon when I remember to do it. I can dump flake in by the ton and no hair algae and this is lit by metal halides to boot. I do not even have a clean up crew in that system except one lone hermit crab. Yet if I feed my SPS setup some flake for more than a couple days things start to change quick.

It's amazing how one thing is great or of -0- negative impact for one setup and can be not so good for another.

When are those updated pics coming Sonny? Not coloring eggs this year so maybe you can add some pastels to the holiday in the form of your updated coral pics I saw you threatening to post.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14799582#post14799582 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by CleveYank
I do not know about much of flour good or bad. But I can attest to Big E's fish and coral health for I've seen the very apparent healthy and well established system.

I don't like flake food myself for the reason that it tends to bump phosphates a tad from what I've seen in my setup at least. I like it because of the engineered vitamins (think of it as millbrook wonder bread for fishies) that is purposly designed to bring about good fish health. Something that brine and scallops alone won't give you. I use these products for the vitamin reason but sparsely in my SPS systems to prevent the phosphate bump that pretty much all of the flake and pellet foods appear to cause. In some systems it doesn't mean a thing.

My no care or hands off system which is more of a fish only with liverock that has some softies in it that I rarely do more than topoff and change out carbon when I remember to do it. I can dump flake in by the ton and no hair algae and this is lit by metal halides to boot. I do not even have a clean up crew in that system except one lone hermit crab. Yet if I feed my SPS setup some flake for more than a couple days things start to change quick.

It's amazing how one thing is great or of -0- negative impact for one setup and can be not so good for another.

When are those updated pics coming Sonny? Not coloring eggs this year so maybe you can add some pastels to the holiday in the form of your updated coral pics I saw you threatening to post.

Are you referring to the new livestock pics I am going to post this evening or these ones I posted up last week? http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1436138&perpage=25&pagenumber=39
 
Gottcha. ;) Ill have them up this evening. I am redoing the basement so I have to first hit Lowe's and Ikea with the wife. :p
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14797714#post14797714 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 250G
Isn't it remarkable the amount of recommendations you can get in one thread?

I don't do 90% of the stuff notes in this thread and my tank and all my SPS have never looked better than they they do today.

Show there are many ways to get the results you are looking for.


Then please post up a few of your tricks and tips of your own so we can learn from you. You have one of the nicest reef tanks here, we would all appreciate your advice.


Sunny, when are you going to compile a list of the best tips and tricks? Maybe a top 50?
 
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