Kana plax and hypo?

[Stylo328]

Two of the tangs developed ick so yesterday we tore down the 187 and put all of the fish back into hypo. My question is can I use Kena plex as a prophylactic in the tank with the hypo? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Siptang]

I would also try chloroquine phosphate if no coral in the tank.

I don't know about the above products too well sorry.

 

[mrx66699]

Why are you wanting to mix meds with hypo either the chloroquine or the kanamycin (kana is more for fungal or bacteria diseases) .......do they have sores? mouth/fins

take the system and bring it straight to hypo they will be fine ....I used to move it down slowly over a few day period but have since learned it works more effectively if you move it immediately to the mark you are bringing it to

 

[Stylo328]

Thanks Matt. I did go directly to 1.010. I was just thinking if using the anti-fungal as a prophylactic.

 

[billsreef]

Using antibiotics as prophylactic is generally a bad idea. It's a good way to create drug resistant strains of bacteria.

 

[mrx66699]

+1 agreed Bill only take the meds if needed....if its only ick he is treating and done correctly the hypo will treat it successfully

 

[Stylo328]

I would also try chloroquine phosphate if no coral in the tank.

I don't know about the above products too well sorry.

Thanks for the advice. I am trying to stay away from copper for a few reasons. Hopefully the hypo will work. Going to keep tem all in QT for 60 days.

 

[Stylo328]

Using antibiotics as prophylactic is generally a bad idea. It's a good way to create drug resistant strains of bacteria.

+1 agreed Bill only take the meds if needed....if its only ick he is treating and done correctly the hypo will treat it successfully

Thank you both. Yes, it appears to only be ich. There are no sores, or growths, or cloudy eyes.

In my build thread someone recommended I fresh-water dip them for 3-5 minutes. I had only don't 8-10 seconds as that's what the LFS recommended. Should I dip them in RO? And if so, for how long? I see no spots on the purple tang, but the Achilles still has remnant marks.

Thanks again,

 

[mrx66699]

fresh water dips are only going to stress them more at the moment....hypo doesnt eradicate the parasite from the inside out of the fish it kills the parasite once it leaves the fish and is in the water column ....if no visible signs on the fish (like being covered literally) then a dip is not needed and who ever recommended you dip them for 8-10 seconds I would have a good laugh with as this would do nothing ....for any kind of assistance at all it would need to be a 3-5 min period (visually inspecting the fish for signs of heavy breathing or gasping for air at the top of the water or laying on its side) during the dip......and since your going to have them in hypo immediately then a dip is useless as the tank they will be in will be sufficient the dip without much visibility of signs of the ick would only stress more....

 

[billsreef]

FW dips are useless for Ich. For flukes, a 1 to 5 minute dip in well aerated, pH and temp adjusted FW work well. An 8 to 10 second FW dip is useless for anything other than stressing out both yourself and the fish from the extra handling.

 

[Stylo328]

fresh water dips are only going to stress them more at the moment....hypo doesnt eradicate the parasite from the inside out of the fish it kills the parasite once it leaves the fish and is in the water column ....if no visible signs on the fish (like being covered literally) then a dip is not needed and who ever recommended you dip them for 8-10 seconds I would have a good laugh with as this would do nothing ....for any kind of assistance at all it would need to be a 3-5 min period (visually inspecting the fish for signs of heavy breathing or gasping for air at the top of the water or laying on its side) during the dip......and since your going to have them in hypo immediately then a dip is useless as the tank they will be in will be sufficient the dip without much visibility of signs of the ick would only stress more....

FW dips are useless for Ich. For flukes, a 1 to 5 minute dip in well aerated, pH and temp adjusted FW work well. An 8 to 10 second FW dip is useless for anything other than stressing out both yourself and the fish from the extra handling.

I'm feeling really guilty right about now. Hopefully everyone makes it through hypo ok, not having suffered excessively as a result if my ignorance.

Plan is to keep the fish in hypo for one month and then slowly increase salinity over the second month before re-introducing into the DT.

I'm almost afraid to ask, but - thoughts?

 

[billsreef]

Don't be afraid Your plan is looking good

 

[mrx66699]

+1 patience young grasshopper with time so shal come the answers you seek......

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[Stylo328]

Most of the fish in the system now have marine velvet. Thoughts on what steps I should take?

 

[billsreef]

Chloriquine at 1mg/L is the best thing for velvet. Copper is a distant second.

 

[Stylo328]

Called all of my LFS and no one has chloriquine. Where would I find it?

 

[mrx66699]

Lance at Marine Inc. has it here in broward I do believe

 

[Stylo328]

Kana plax and hypo?

Bill, 1mg/L?

Read 15mg/L online and just wanted to verify. I got the chloriquine and wanted to dose tonight. I am no good at chemistry or math.

How much should I add for ~60-gallons of water in the tank?

Thanks

 

[mrx66699]

Call Lance he will be more than happy to assist you......he gave the talk in mia on fish disease that you attended .....

 

[billsreef]

Bill, 1mg/L?

Read 15mg/L online and just wanted to verify. I got the chloriquine and wanted to dose tonight. I am no good at chemistry or math.

How much should I add for ~60-gallons of water in the tank?

Thanks

Glad you questioned that. I dropped a digit. Dosage is 10ppm which is pretty darn close to 10mg/L. Sorry about that mistake.