Kardon Ick Attack
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Reef Frog
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Ajae: Honesr question but no, it's worthless as a cure for Marine ich. I'm going to make fun of the product not you. I was sold stuff like this year's ago on freshwater tanks.
Wow I love that label. A bottle of magic juice that can save a Copperband Butterfly fish, a seahorse and some freshwater tettras from ich! Apparantly it can even cure Ich in vascular plants. That's amazing. They should be considered for a Nobel Prize.
Is this one of those slime coat enhancers or whatever .... ?
Sarcasm aside, Real Question: Do Seahorses get marine ich?
OP:
Wow I love that label. A bottle of magic juice that can save a Copperband Butterfly fish, a seahorse and some freshwater tettras from ich! Apparantly it can even cure Ich in vascular plants. That's amazing. They should be considered for a Nobel Prize.
Is this one of those slime coat enhancers or whatever .... ?
Sarcasm aside, Real Question: Do Seahorses get marine ich?
OP:
kmbyrnes
New member
I used it on an ich outbreak - lost a couple hundred bucks worth of fish.
I learned my lesson. This and other products like it are worthless.
If it were not for places like Reef Central, more folks would get sucked in by these products.
Good on the OP for asking the question here.
I learned my lesson. This and other products like it are worthless.
If it were not for places like Reef Central, more folks would get sucked in by these products.
Good on the OP for asking the question here.
gone fishin
New member
As others mentioned it does nothing for ich. Good job on going the QT route. There is a sticky above the big read arrow at the top of the forum on Tank Transfer Method (TTM).
I think it's pretty safe to say that if a product is "safe for all invertibrates and corals", that it's also safe for the ich parasite to swim around and have a nice vacation in.
It may help fish build up their slime coats.
It may help fish's immune systems.
Maybe.
It doesn't kill ich.
It _does_ bring lots of money to Big-Box pet-shop's corporate offices, because it's all they sell for ich, and some folks will buy it more than once - because it didn't work the first time . . . or the second . . . (Does this opinion make me look cynical?)
~Bruce, who settled on chelated copper as his QT treatment of choice for Cryptocaryon irritans.
It may help fish build up their slime coats.
It may help fish's immune systems.
Maybe.
It doesn't kill ich.
It _does_ bring lots of money to Big-Box pet-shop's corporate offices, because it's all they sell for ich, and some folks will buy it more than once - because it didn't work the first time . . . or the second . . . (Does this opinion make me look cynical?)
~Bruce, who settled on chelated copper as his QT treatment of choice for Cryptocaryon irritans.
Thanks for all the help, I've ordered coppermine on Amazon and will arrive today. It's what I went to look for but Petco and Petsmart only this stuff. I wanted wanted something as soon as possible and grabbed this stuff. Although the spots are gone I do believe that they will return. That's what it seems like with the couple of videos that I watched on YT.
I have 6 bottles of An ich,fungal,and scope rote remover I got for free at the last swap and I'm only using three bottles so I have 3 bottles unopened that u can have and they say reef safe if ud like them they r urs.
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Thanks for the offer, but already purchased the coppermine and it will be arriving today. Thanks again cheers.
billdogg
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PLEASE read the sticky on the Tank Transfer Method (TTM)
Copper, to be effective, must be carefully monitored and kept at a very specific level. Not enough and it won't do any good (although it can mask the outbreak to the point you think it is cured and let your fish into the DT, only to find that it is still present, but now it is copper resistant as well!) Too much and it will kill the fish as well, not to mention the possibility of inadvertently getting it in the main system and killing off not only your current inverts, but also, probably, future ones as well.
Copper, to be effective, must be carefully monitored and kept at a very specific level. Not enough and it won't do any good (although it can mask the outbreak to the point you think it is cured and let your fish into the DT, only to find that it is still present, but now it is copper resistant as well!) Too much and it will kill the fish as well, not to mention the possibility of inadvertently getting it in the main system and killing off not only your current inverts, but also, probably, future ones as well.
+1, the TTM is the only way to go. It is so minimally stressful on the fish that I put all my new fish through the TTM even if they do not show any signs of ich BEFORE I put them in my quarantine tank. I also give two treatments of PraziPro to the fish while going through the tank transfers to eliminate any internal parasites and flukes.
