keeping lyretail anthias from going male

holdyourlight

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what are the chances that i can keep a group of female lyretail anthias to stay female with a large terminal male dispar or resplendent anthias male in the tank?
sdguy?
 
No idea. I had a male for several years. Lost him during a tank transfer. The next female immediately changed, but one day just disappeared. The current dominant one has remained a GIANT orange female for almsot 2 years now :confused: Maybe she's scared to change after seeing what happened to the last two males :lol:
 
SDguy said:
No idea. I had a male for several years. Lost him during a tank transfer. The next female immediately changed, but one day just disappeared. The current dominant one has remained a GIANT orange female for almsot 2 years now :confused: Maybe she's scared to change after seeing what happened to the last two males :lol:
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Lucky!! I love the orange females, haven't founds many males that i am too fond of the color of
 
You know it's funny I had a dispar that took the male role over my carberryi's, and it seemed fine, but one carb seemed to begin the transition, but didn't go all the way.
Sadly my male dispar was the only fish that didn't survive my recent swap, one I really liked him, and two it would have been nice to see the outcome.
Right now I have that male carb, and a male lyretail, and they seem to rule each group independently, but often they all group together and then the much bigger lyretail male rules all.
I have a sub male Lyretail even though I had a terminal male from the get go, and if I had to guess, the dispar being much smaller than the lyretails might not keep you from having one lyretail turn male.
 
davocean said:
You know it's funny I had a dispar that took the male role over my carberryi's, and it seemed fine, but one carb seemed to begin the transition, but didn't go all the way.
Sadly my male dispar was the only fish that didn't survive my recent swap, one I really liked him, and two it would have been nice to see the outcome.
Right now I have that male carb, and a male lyretail, and they seem to rule each group independently, but often they all group together and then the much bigger lyretail male rules all.
I have a sub male Lyretail even though I had a terminal male from the get go, and if I had to guess, the dispar being much smaller than the lyretails might not keep you from having one lyretail turn male.
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good point. the lyretails can get much larger than dispars, and much MUCH larger than resplendents.
I guess im just going to have to find a male lyretail that i actually like the color of. I HATE the way maldives look. No offense to anyone just personal taste.
I wish i knew what region this one from melev was from..
I prefer this color male to all others
http://melevsreef.com/pics/07/07/anthias12.jpg
 
Well that male appears to be same as mine, Indo.
I have pics on the other thread about less problematic anthias.
 
Yeah, I asked Marc about his and he seemed to think his was more orange until it made the transition more than the region it was from, and I can't say I agreed on that, but I'm not the anthias expert.
If I have anthias questions I go to Peter.
Lighting and diet as well as camera may have an affect as well, here's another of mine that I think looks more purply.

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Yes, yours looks closer to melev's in that pic. Certainly more than any maldives or fiji specimen i've seen. I dont follow what you are saying in the quote here though.

davocean said:
Yeah, I asked Marc about his and he seemed to think his was more orange until it made the transition more than the region it was from, and I can't say I agreed on that, but I'm not the anthias expert.
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I was just trying get a solid ID so it would help ID mine but he gave credit to it's color solely on the fact it was due to becoming a male, did not credit color differences from any particular region.
I thought the colors are what determines what region they are from, not sex, though I'm sure they do get brighter and streamers from turning male.
My sub male is very bright orange, has a spike, and though I'm curious if it would change color more if given dominant role, I'm fine w/ things as they are.
 
davocean said:
I was just trying get a solid ID so it would help ID mine but he gave credit to it's color solely on the fact it was due to becoming a male, did not credit color differences from any particular region.
I thought the colors are what determines what region they are from, not sex, though I'm sure they do get brighter and streamers from turning male.
My sub male is very bright orange, has a spike, and though I'm curious if it would change color more if given dominant role, I'm fine w/ things as they are.
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gotcha. yeah obviously the males color varies greatly by region. hope i can find a nice solid purple one :)
 
I ended up with one male after 2 attempts with groups of 4 and 5.It took a year or more each time but same results,a badly beaten down individual died one at a time over time.This was in a 180 gal reef and the groups seemed healthy each time.Same with the barletts i tried also.unfortunate cause i really like these guys
 
rigleautomotive said:
I ended up with one male after 2 attempts with groups of 4 and 5.It took a year or more each time but same results,a badly beaten down individual died one at a time over time.This was in a 180 gal reef and the groups seemed healthy each time.Same with the barletts i tried also.unfortunate cause i really like these guys
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Did you start with all females?
wonder if it's better to start with an already established male
 
rigleautomotive said:
I ended up with one male after 2 attempts with groups of 4 and 5.It took a year or more each time but same results,a badly beaten down individual died one at a time over time.This was in a 180 gal reef and the groups seemed healthy each time.Same with the barletts i tried also.unfortunate cause i really like these guys
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How often were you feeding them Dan?
 
SDguy said:
...The current dominant one has remained a GIANT orange female for almsot 2 years now :confused: Maybe she's scared to change after seeing what happened to the last two males :lol:
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same here peter...ginormous orange she-male that spawns nightly with her girls :D
 
holdyourlight said:
Did you start with all females?
wonder if it's better to start with an already established male
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Well I would say the majority were juvenile or female at the start.After time,males began to form and fight with the one or so present in the group.There were one visible male in each group in all of my attempts with Bartlett and Lyretails.

29reef said:
How often were you feeding them Dan?
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I fed the tank 2 to three times a day but it is a very mature reef with plenty of plankton and microbial life so the anthias would be seen throughout the day picking at the water column.I think they were fed enough but the aggression as they reached full maturity became the issue.
 
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