LA DD fish?

Cute little guy. I have seen one at a LFS here for months. Coloration was a bit more yellow/gold in person than photos. The little guy kept hiding whenever I have someone else to come look at the fish so few people actually saw it.
 
Copps, can you comment a bit on these little guys? I remember seeing them a few years back in my LFS, however they had trouble getting them to eat, and were easily bullied.
 
Congrats Todd! This is probably the second most secretive dwarf angel behind Centropyge nigriocella, and despite its wide range this is one of the reasons it went undiscovered for so long and took so long to make it into the hobby... Because of this, and where its found, many I suspect have been "juiced" through the years. These can adapt very well and thrive in mixed reefs if added in an adapted state... in fact, a couple of years ago I stayed with Greg Hiller, former President of the Boston Reefers while I was speaking for their club. Greg has a beautiful large reef in the living room with two Centropyge aurantia that had been together for a couple of years... I asked if they were spawning and he said no... but I thought different! I stayed up until after midnight and sure enough this very secretive pair rose out of the rockwork at twilight and spawned, and like the madman I am I think I woke up his whole family when I screamed to Greg and called him down... :) So, while these are tough to adapt, they are not in the realm of a Centropyge multifasciata or Centropyge colini... and of course buying from the DD is almost like cheating! The hard work has been done!

Copps
 
Thanks for the post John.

Part of my issue is going to be where to put it --- my 58 is out; has a Multicolored and a Potters (( the Potter's used to be a pair of Potters that started to show the spawning nightly rise -- lost them when I had a tank issue while in for emergency surgery )).

My 75, which I am leaning towards does have a Flame angel in there, think that might be issues.

My 33 cube had an Argi angel in there, which I would be willing to sell (( and then maybe move the flame into that tank )).

Either way I will have some time. I normally don't QT, but I am going to do that for this guy -- mainly to get him used to eating prepared foods in a somewhat controlled situation.

Any other insight you can provide would be great. Thanks.
 
Be careful Todd... I've spoken to so many people that do not usually QT, but end up cutting their QT with fish they shouldn't... like these guys... as with everything there is a learning curve, so just be careful.

In a small system like those I would add this as the first Centropyge... so maybe remove the flame or the argi... you could try placing it in the 75 with the flame and just leave the lights out for a couple of days, but ideally I'd yank the flame first and place it back later. Or if possible, section off a place in your 75 with eggcrate for the golden to settle into for a few weeks in some sort of transition zone... this will allow the new fish to settle into a stress free area and develop its own territory, while allowing the existing fish to see, but not touch, the new fish... after a few weeks/ months you could remove the eggcrate (or whatever means you use), and the mixing will go much smoother...
 
copps said:
Be careful Todd... I've spoken to so many people that do not usually QT, but end up cutting their QT with fish they shouldn't... like these guys... as with everything there is a learning curve, so just be careful.

In a small system like those I would add this as the first Centropyge... so maybe remove the flame or the argi... you could try placing it in the 75 with the flame and just leave the lights out for a couple of days, but ideally I'd yank the flame first and place it back later. Or if possible, section off a place in your 75 with eggcrate for the golden to settle into for a few weeks in some sort of transition zone... this will allow the new fish to settle into a stress free area and develop its own territory, while allowing the existing fish to see, but not touch, the new fish... after a few weeks/ months you could remove the eggcrate (or whatever means you use), and the mixing will go much smoother...
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Thanks a lot. Perhaps I will skip the QT (( it has worked for me over the last 15+ years, not using one that is )). Plus, I like the idea of it having lots of mature rocks to pick at.

And think the 75 would be best. As luck would have it, been thinking about moving a few rocks around, so that would allow me to catch the flame. Plus, that would allow me to set up a "section" for the new guy -- like that idea.

I got real lucky when I added the multi-colored to my 58 (( with the Potter's )), kept it in a breeder box for 24 hours and then released it -- the Potter's didn't care one bit.
 
Todd why not add the usually more fiesty argi (speaking in general terms here) to the 75 with the flame and put the golden in the 30. At least that is what I would do.
 
tcmfish said:
Todd why not add the usually more fiesty argi (speaking in general terms here) to the 75 with the flame and put the golden in the 30. At least that is what I would do.
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I was thinking about that too, at least I have a few days to think about that. It would be easier (( at least I think )) to get the argi out of the cube. Plus, I have been thinking about selling one of the Haddonis in that tank.



All I know is that I am glad I saw this thread, was going to start one tonight about where to place it.
 
Definitely NOT with the argi. Cherubs will definitely kill competing Centropyge. Especially in a tank that size!
I'd go for the 75 if I were in your shoes ( which I wish I was!! LOL)

Matthew
 
I posted a whole long reply but the instability of RC erased it.

Anyways, I have one in my 180, I didnt see it often for the first 8mos or so and never saw it eat. Now it has become a permanent resident of feeding time, grabbing pieces of food before other fish can think. Quick and stealthy, it never leaves the rockwork, always a few inches from it. Great fish, beautiful! One of my favorite cherubs.
 
After lots of thinking, I think I have a plan -- at least short term.

Going to but the new guy in my 33 cube --- but going to remove Argi. I figure I will get it a month or two to settle in. Then move it to my 75 (( and move the flame over to the cube )), and then think about trying to add a different dwarf to the 75 (( after the golden is used to the 75 )).

The reason I am not just moving the flame right now is because I only put it in the 75 on Sunday. It is settling really well and don't want to stress it by moving it. Plus, it will be easier on me -- only have to work on one tank, as opposed to 2.
 
Sounds good. Good luck with the new Golden Angel, I would love to have one, I just wish most weren't captured by the use of Cyanide.
 
I wanted that fish :)

These are my favorite dwarf angel. I kept one in a 75g tank for almost 4 years until the tank was broken down. My rockwork was farily open so I actually saw this fish quite a bit, having peaceful tank mates helped I'm sure.

Before that I tried a couple of times and failed; my feeling is they were cyanide caught. About 6 months ago I found a local reefer breaking down his 400 gallon system who had the fattest golden I have ever seen and I bought it. Made it through 6 weeks of QT no problem but it eventually disappeared in my tank. I'm not sure what happened but it wasn't eating well in the display (but eating fine in QT)... so they can be a little tricky but as Copps said buying one from DD is definitely swinging the odds in your favor. Having a pair would be my dream come true.
 
Jacob D said:
I wanted that fish :)

These are my favorite dwarf angel. I kept one in a 75g tank for almost 4 years until the tank was broken down. My rockwork was farily open so I actually saw this fish quite a bit, having peaceful tank mates helped I'm sure.

Before that I tried a couple of times and failed; my feeling is they were cyanide caught. About 6 months ago I found a local reefer breaking down his 400 gallon system who had the fattest golden I have ever seen and I bought it. Made it through 6 weeks of QT no problem but it eventually disappeared in my tank. I'm not sure what happened but it wasn't eating well in the display (but eating fine in QT)... so they can be a little tricky but as Copps said buying one from DD is definitely swinging the odds in your favor. Having a pair would be my dream come true.
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Ya these seem like the perfect fish for a small, very peaceful reef (like that 33g the OP has). Smaller tank will make it easier to see them and for them to get plenty of food.
 
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