Large holding tank (pool) input needed?
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TurboGuru
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12640613#post12640613 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rogergolf66
Well all I can say is it sounds to me like you really want to do the right thing here. You are really thinking this out, but that being said Im not sure you are thinking clear enough.
The idea looks great. I don't think you will have any problems with the transport (if you can even catch anything. like you said) How ever I think you need to look for a new option other then a blow up pool. I understand that you are not made of money I don't think many of us on this forum are but you may be trying to cut to big of a corner off here with that as a holding tank.
Reasons well that is alot of water going into your garage when it pops. notice I didn't put IF
In thorey it is a great cheep way to get started but not recommended for long term. Maybe I missed it but is this a temp holding tank till you move them to your main tank? if so I would just wait till the main tank is setup and running and move the fish in then.
If this is a temp setup then remember what ever stuff you get can be resold later on. The pond liner is the best bet and as I said someone would love to pick up some pond liner at at 30%-40% saving so you can get 60%-70% of your $ back on that part.
Remember this is just our/ my opinion(s) and everyone has one. If people didn't ever try out stuff that other people thought were crazy we would be missing out on alot of great things in life.
Good Luck
Roger
Thank you for seeing thru the reason and giving your opinions on the question.
I think that the frame with plywood with the pond liner is going to be our best option. Yes, when is a likely question as far as liner failure. This is a concern for us, however, our garage is sunken 6" lower than the house and should it fail our grass would be the only casualty.
This is a temporary holding tank, we do have 6 SW tanks in the house. We have a 75, 55, 50, 40, 34, 10. although we have these established tanks, we still need a place to quarantine the captured fish IMO.
The initial outlay for the holding tank is what we are tryijng to conserve on. I realize that we could resell anything we buy at a reduced price to recoup our cost, but the outlay is our main concern.
I truly appreciate your inut. This is an experimental project, and we are just looking to do it right.
Thanks,
Joe
triggerfish1976
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Why would you need a 1800g pool to house fish for only 265g worth of tanks?
BillyFSU
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1800 gallons in your garage is going to cause huge humidity issues (mildew, water damage) unless you have some sort of HVAC system. You will probably need a re-circ system to save at least some of that water you'll be evaporating everyday (100-150 gallons a day I'd guess). Is 1800 gallons of seawater + LR going to be okay on the concrete? Thats about 8 tons!
TurboGuru
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Novice collectors, yes we would be. We need a pre-holding system to make sure our fish can survive and keep them from infecting the other tank inhabitants they will soon be housed with. That being said, we would love to eventually become commercial collectors, but that is still too far off to consider as a supplemental venture.
The nylon bags were an idea from a collection equipment site who states :
"Portable temporary holding cage with a 3/16" (2.5mm) mesh for holding fish within a tank or pond. Ideal for sorting for sales or for staging growth phases of various size fish. re (sic) frame which instantly opens and supports cage when opened. We have tested these for 9 months and use them in our salt and fresh water applications. Some rust will occur from frame but is not toxic. Depending on the depth of the tank or pond, floatation collars can be added made from 2" PVC pipe which can be strapped with cable ties onto the standard frame. Ideal for temporary or permanent holding or rearing fish. Bottom is unmeshed. An entire fish population can be harvested or transferred at once resulting in less stress on the fish." The nylon bags will not be free floating but lashed to a PVC crossmember which will hold them stationary.
Should we decide to become commercial collectors and upgrade our licenses, this would likely become our means of collected specimen care. However, this is just for our amusement as of now.
Thanks,
Joe
kiransreef
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WEW!!!!! This is a very BIG can-o-worms....no comment here!KR
gsellers1245
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not yelling just forgot to take off caps.
a saltwater fishing license doesnt give you a license to sell or harvest for profit. how can you say that its just for your amusement and you dont want to put any money into it when your dealing with a living animal whose life your going to end by sticking it in some plastic pool in some hot garage instead of being in a properly maintained system.
TurboGuru
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I/ we are fully aware that the saltwater fishing license does not allow us to sell or harvest for profit... thanks for the re-iteration.
I can say it is for my amusement, because it is. I want peoples opinions/thoughts on how I would achieve a good, all be it cheap, way to do what I am suggesting without a ton of money. Lets concentrate more on the solution than the bashing of an idea, I would really appreciate it.
As for the why 1800 gal for 265 gal worth... why not... its the smallest, cheapest pool I could find. if you find one smaller or cheaper, let me know... I'll consider it.
Thanks,
Joe
Thanks,
Joe
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well any how i commend u for wanting to collect your own fish. however, not on that scale, i would say this: if you are not intending on collecting an erroneous amount of fish such a large capacity qt tank would not be necessary. i think that most of the posts have thought about why the hell u would need 1800 gallons... or for that matter 80 fish...a four day escapade to yield that many fish only means one thing or another 1.) you are trying to make a profit or 2.) u really could care less about what you are taking. that being said i think everyones getting at this point. take a few fish but leave the serious collecting to the pros. even if u had 0 fish in your 10 tanks none of which were very sizeable by my recollection that bio-load is tremendous. Me myself and i would suggest only taking what you could house, only taking what you thought wouldnt out grow your systems (almost everything u mentioned) and figureing out that a 55-100g plastic horse trough/ rubbermaid storage container would suffice for these purposes. just my opinion i hope im mistaken and i look forward to your response.
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well any how i commend u for wanting to collect your own fish. however, not on that scale, i would say this: if you are not intending on collecting an erroneous amount of fish such a large capacity qt tank would not be necessary. i think that most of the posts have thought about why the hell u would need 1800 gallons... or for that matter 80 fish...a four day escapade to yield that many fish only means one thing or another 1.) you are trying to make a profit or 2.) u really could care less about what you are taking. that being said i think everyones getting at this point. take a few fish but leave the serious collecting to the pros. even if u had 0 fish in your 10 tanks none of which were very sizeable by my recollection that bio-load is tremendous. Me myself and i would suggest only taking what you could house, only taking what you thought wouldnt out grow your systems (almost everything u mentioned) and figureing out that a 55-100g plastic horse trough/ rubbermaid storage container would suffice for these purposes. just my opinion i hope im mistaken and i look forward to your response.
rogergolf66
im an addict lol
any thought as to how much a skimmer would cost rated for 1,800 gallons? 
Roger
Roger
kiransreef
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Hi Joe,
You could always use the hard plastic baby pools. There are pretty big ones of those. Don't know how many gal they are. But, if in fact you are only collecting for yourself that would be plenty big enough for temp holding tanks. They are cheap and would be fine to hold small rock. Which as you say you will not be getting a ton of fish (only the allowed amount for personal use). The other thing here is that....are you only getting fish? or other inverts as well? Is that the reason for the elaborate set up? Just a thought. KR
You could always use the hard plastic baby pools. There are pretty big ones of those. Don't know how many gal they are. But, if in fact you are only collecting for yourself that would be plenty big enough for temp holding tanks. They are cheap and would be fine to hold small rock. Which as you say you will not be getting a ton of fish (only the allowed amount for personal use). The other thing here is that....are you only getting fish? or other inverts as well? Is that the reason for the elaborate set up? Just a thought. KR
Very interesting to read through this thread. I would think starting small and working up to your 1800gl system would be the way I would go.
Start with a couple large rubbermaids and extra or used equip you would find here from other members cheap. If the entire process of collection, transportation, qt'ing, then integration into display tanks works for initial few trips then explore larger means of housing. You can always resell used equip and rubbermaids here to upgrade your setup.
I guess I am think of this as a new tank when new to the hobby. Start small and work your way up to the big stuff.
The plastic baby pools sounded like a good alternative and would reduce costs. They are less than $40 if i remember.
Start with a couple large rubbermaids and extra or used equip you would find here from other members cheap. If the entire process of collection, transportation, qt'ing, then integration into display tanks works for initial few trips then explore larger means of housing. You can always resell used equip and rubbermaids here to upgrade your setup.
I guess I am think of this as a new tank when new to the hobby. Start small and work your way up to the big stuff.
The plastic baby pools sounded like a good alternative and would reduce costs. They are less than $40 if i remember.
