Large Reef Stocking Without Quarantine

Hello fellow large reef owners!

I am setting up a 350 gallon display, and am trying to figure out how to go about fish stocking without having a quarantine system. I really don't have the space for the large 40g (minimum) tank that a tang would require.

Do you just take the risk of introducing something deadly with every fish addition?

Do you give new additions a freshwater (or other type of) dip?

Do you rely on UV?

I have also read that many reefs HAVE ich, it does just not show itself unless fish are stressed. So, have you seen ich but rely on heavy feeding to keep everything healthy?

I know this is a ich/disease post, I am not trying to beat a dead horse :deadhorse: . I am just trying to have the absolute minimum lost of life as possible, as well as not endure a heart (and wallet) wrenching fish loss down the line.

You poll the forum nearly a month ago with no response to the group about there thoughts.......
Not cool. Not cool at all.

However, you should QT in my opinion. Everyone should reguardless of tank size. Period.
 
It would be great to have the ability to use NSW. I do believe that you see differences from artificial. How did you collect and transport it? Just filter it before using?

The local university here has a large marine research facility. They actually bring in the water from about a mile off shore in a pipe line. That feeds into a large rock/sand filters and then into a 25,000 dark storage tank. They have lines plumbed all around the campus to feed their projects. They also have a water spout that the public can have access to. I have a 250G water container that I would drive up there and fill up using a garden hose. About a 75 mile round trip to get 250 G of filtered NSW.

Most times, I'd do a 50% water change when I got home so didn't have to store much water. Fish and corals were fine even though there was a temp swing of 10 degrees or more.
 
Always love the 20-years-without-QT folks. Let's see a picture of the tank [emoji38]. Much easier and cheaper to build a sizable population with (have over 100 fish in my 450).

Here you go. That toad stool in the front is about 15" across. The Male Naso in the last pic didn't start growing his streamers until after I got him and put him in the tank with NSW. The Naso's came with the tank from the previous owner who had them for years. 100 fish in a 450? They must be really small fish.

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The local university here has a large marine research facility. They actually bring in the water from about a mile off shore in a pipe line. That feeds into a large rock/sand filters and then into a 25,000 dark storage tank. They have lines plumbed all around the campus to feed their projects. They also have a water spout that the public can have access to. I have a 250G water container that I would drive up there and fill up using a garden hose. About a 75 mile round trip to get 250 G of filtered NSW.

Most times, I'd do a 50% water change when I got home so didn't have to store much water. Fish and corals were fine even though there was a temp swing of 10 degrees or more.

Wow! And you can get the saltwater for free?! That is incredible. That would be a huge cost savings for people in your area with large tanks. Certainly worth the drive! Nice tank too!
 
Thanks.
yea it is nice. I took our club up there for a field trip one time and they gave us the full tour of the NSW facility, filtration system and all. So we got to see it all first hand. They have 2 holding tanks. First one is the incoming water and you can see all kinds of growth in it, sponges etc. Second tank is the filtered water and there is no growth. The filter system is huge and open. There were all kinds of stuff growing on top of it as well. They back flush it every once in a while. We were there when it did back flush and all kinds of stuff was coming out of the rocks and sand.
 
Please define large? 6"? 12"? Other?

With 50 damsels alone, it's got to be pretty full.
Would like to see a picture.

I know my 12" Naso's seemed to be a little short on swimming from in my 7 foot long 400G tank.
 
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You poll the forum nearly a month ago with no response to the group about there thoughts.......
Not cool. Not cool at all.

However, you should QT in my opinion. Everyone should reguardless of tank size. Period.

I have zero notifications- I would log in and figured nobody had responded- other forums I've been on notify me via email or have a "!" of sorts when I log in. My bad-- I am going back now to respond. Good feedback here, didnt mean to seem like I wasn't reading it. There is also no "like" or "thanks" function like one uses in other forums to show that you have read the reply.
 
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Thanks for the feedback [MENTION=242390]ali1[/MENTION]; [MENTION=350887]Alfrareef[/MENTION]; [MENTION=289045]McPuff[/MENTION]; [MENTION=814]Rover[/MENTION]8; [MENTION=77213]lagatbezan[/MENTION]; et all. Right now the tank is running with no fish, just some sticks (which I have dipped and observed in another tank for a while before moving them). I do have a ~60w UV on there at 250gph as a preventative measure, but I know that 60w is pretty darn undersized for the tank.

[MENTION=319610]rvareef[/MENTION]; having 350 in the living room does not mean that I can put a quarantine next to it- would look awful. When I say no room, I mean I dont have a dedicated space to set up a 40b that would not look awful or interfere with daily happenings at my home.

[MENTION=122152]ca1ore[/MENTION]; it is a 96x27x30 tall. Got it used (like new), if I personally ordered it I would have gone with a wider and less tall setup. Custom faux coral stand too. Ive added a bashsea smart series sump (which has proven to be a pain), Regal 250ss skimmer, apex 2016, Radion hybrid fixture, etc. A pretty sweet setup :)

[MENTION=10672]Crusty Old Shellback [/MENTION]I use RODI and Red Sea Blue Bucket on my tanks, but thats sweet to have free access to good NSW!! I think hauling water in my coupe would damage the suspension though xD
 
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I also have a very healthy, stable 70g reef. I wonder if I could do observation in that tank for two months before adding it to the 300. This would be to check that the fish is eating and healthy in a non-copper or low salinity aquarium before moving it. It wouldn’t ensure absolutely that it is absolutely disease free, but would be a pretty good gauge of health.

The 70 gallon is mostly corals along with a pair of clowns and a wrasse, which are pretty hardy fish. It wouldn’t be nearly as big of a problem if there was some sort of outbreak in that tank.
 
I would advise setting up a temporary qt. I have to rip apart my 180 to catch all my fish after an ich outbreak for not treating fish in the beginning
 
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