Learning/rebuilding from my epic fail

[tripdad]

That first coral is just too cool. Hope it grows like crazy and keeps it's color.

 

[MichaelW]

I. WANT. THAT. DEEPWATER! I am really into the deepwater stuff at the moment and wanting to find more. That is one I would love to find

 

[biggles]

Those last two pieces are bloody gorgeous Matt, i bet you had a smile on your dial when you were gluing those down buddy - very jealous
Those frags including the SSC look healthy and painted with pigments mate, very cool color saturation is something i always see in your acros so i bet those colors really shine in person, no pics ever really do the colors of acros justice.
I'd be very happy with your not so orange passion just the way it looks now Matt, it's already very pretty. :beer:

 

[M007]

Nice stuff you got growing there, where do you find those beauties?

 

[reefmutt]

That first one is an incredible coral- very jealous of that one!

Thanks, Matt.. I hope I can keep it happy..

That first coral is just too cool. Hope it grows like crazy and keeps it's color.

Thanks, it really is special. If I can get it to grow I will frag it and put it all over the tank

I. WANT. THAT. DEEPWATER! I am really into the deepwater stuff at the moment and wanting to find more. That is one I would love to find

Deep waters are really my favorite corals.. But I'm so addicted, I can't resist buying everything I see that is nice.. I have a few more that I haven't shot yet.. Waiting for better colour development.

Those last two pieces are bloody gorgeous Matt, i bet you had a smile on your dial when you were gluing those down buddy - very jealous
Those frags including the SSC look healthy and painted with pigments mate, very cool color saturation is something i always see in your acros so i bet those colors really shine in person, no pics ever really do the colors of acros justice.
I'd be very happy with your not so orange passion just the way it looks now Matt, it's already very pretty. :beer:

Thank, Andrew, I still have a smile on my face, every time I look at them! I will have to do some rearranging to get the red one in the right place..
I can only assume the nitrate dosing and measurable p is what keeps my corals from getting pastel.. I actually find that the camera sometimes accentuates some subtle colors sometimes and then can't seem to get deep solid colours right..
I recently added back a 150w de radium between the 250s because I found the tank a bit dim in the centre.. Now, I have solid coverage!

Nice stuff you got growing there, where do you find those beauties?

Thanks! I'd say 50-60% of my corals come from Raging Reef, another 30-40 from Fragbox and a few from Reef Solution and elsewhere local..
Lately, I've been removing the under/non performing frags and replacing them with new pieces.. I have to be careful, though because sometimes (pearlberry is and example) a frag will sit for months and do nothing and then boom, it starts and you are amazed..
In my old tank, I bought almost exclusively colonies so when they went in the tank, you have an idea of growth form and colour.. Working with frags tends to make you crowd them in without anticipating form and colour. Is much more difficult...
I'll have to take some wider shots soon..

Here's another deep water which had hints of blue tips. I hope when it starts growing again, they will reappear..

A piece I'm hoping will redden up..

 

[shih87]

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This one has great potential!!! Love it.

 

[M007]

Thanks! I'd say 50-60% of my corals come from Raging Reef, another 30-40 from Fragbox and a few from Reef Solution and elsewhere local..
Lately, I've been removing the under/non performing frags and replacing them with new pieces.. I have to be careful, though because sometimes (pearlberry is and example) a frag will sit for months and do nothing and then boom, it starts and you are amazed..
In my old tank, I bought almost exclusively colonies so when they went in the tank, you have an idea of growth form and colour.. Working with frags tends to make you crowd them in without anticipating form and colour. Is much more difficult...
I'll have to take some wider shots soon..

Here's another deep water which had hints of blue tips. I hope when it starts growing again, they will reappear..

A piece I'm hoping will redden up..

I'm in the same boat, I have 6 RR frags ready to mount but struggling to figure out where to mount them. Sadly some current residents must go :headwallblue:

 

[Cyberdude]

Learning/rebuilding from my epic fail

How do you get great PE from
Your frags from
Uncle raja. Picked up this peice last week. And not much PE. even after broadcast feeding reef roids. Have some decent pe on other sps.

 

[nemodan]

I'm in the same boat, I have 6 RR frags ready to mount but struggling to figure out where to mount them. Sadly some current residents must go :headwallblue:

I have achieved that point too in my tank. It is overpopulated , and the real state space is too valuable (like Manhattan :lolspin .

I though like you, but yesterday I rejected an incredible blue Acro, small colony, due to lack of space and due to my attachment to my old corals. Those guys survived my nutrient crash, where I lost several Corals colonies . They stayed with me in the worst moments and they fought to survive and continue in my display. Many of them are still recovering color and starting to grow new tissue. How I can take them out ? I feel strongly attached to them :love1:

Daniel :wildone:

 

[madkeenreefer]

Looking really good...You have some future masterpeices in your collection

 

[M007]

I have achieved that point too in my tank. It is overpopulated , and the real state space is too valuable (like Manhattan :lolspin .

I though like you, but yesterday I rejected an incredible blue Acro, small colony, due to lack of space and due to my attachment to my old corals. Those guys survived my nutrient crash, where I lost several Corals colonies . They stayed with me in the worst moments and they fought to survive and continue in my display. Many of them are still recovering color and starting to grow new tissue. How I can take them out ? I feel strongly attached to them :love1:

Daniel :wildone:

Yes and there's that too, I also have a few crash survivors that are now doing quite well, and can't bring myself to removing them :love2:

 

[mhucasey]

Thanks, Matt.. I hope I can keep it happy..


Thanks, it really is special. If I can get it to grow I will frag it and put it all over the tank


Deep waters are really my favorite corals.. But I'm so addicted, I can't resist buying everything I see that is nice.. I have a few more that I haven't shot yet.. Waiting for better colour development.


Thank, Andrew, I still have a smile on my face, every time I look at them! I will have to do some rearranging to get the red one in the right place..
I can only assume the nitrate dosing and measurable p is what keeps my corals from getting pastel.. I actually find that the camera sometimes accentuates some subtle colors sometimes and then can't seem to get deep solid colours right..
I recently added back a 150w de radium between the 250s because I found the tank a bit dim in the centre.. Now, I have solid coverage!


Thanks! I'd say 50-60% of my corals come from Raging Reef, another 30-40 from Fragbox and a few from Reef Solution and elsewhere local..
Lately, I've been removing the under/non performing frags and replacing them with new pieces.. I have to be careful, though because sometimes (pearlberry is and example) a frag will sit for months and do nothing and then boom, it starts and you are amazed..
In my old tank, I bought almost exclusively colonies so when they went in the tank, you have an idea of growth form and colour.. Working with frags tends to make you crowd them in without anticipating form and colour. Is much more difficult...
I'll have to take some wider shots soon..

The tank looks great and Im so happy that corals are doing well! I do a lot of rearranging myself - i buy the big container of coraffix glue so I can easily re-set corals when I need to. Its hard to replace a coral you have had for a long time with one that is a better color or more interesting, but its our garden and keeping the exact same corals forever is kind of boring

I plan on loading up on corals at Reef-a-palooza soon and some of my old-timers will have to make way for some new ones I think. Its tempting to just stuff them all in there but Ill try to resist...

 

[DiscusHeckel]

What can I say? Your frags are breathtakingly beautiful. Have you got a recent FTS please?

I do not often see wild corals like the ones in your photos in my lfs. Did you get your frags from wild colonies or fellow reefers or mark-cultured colonies?

Cheers

 

[markalot]

Love the deepwaters as well, and that new frag looks fantastic. I was able to pick up a caroliniana (so it was called) that is a light blue under radiums and I'm hoping it will stay that way under T5.

How cool would an entire tank of deepwaters look?

 

[mhucasey]

Love the deepwaters as well, and that new frag looks fantastic. I was able to pick up a caroliniana (so it was called) that is a light blue under radiums and I'm hoping it will stay that way under T5.

How cool would an entire tank of deepwaters look?

Don't make me drool!

 

[reefmutt]

This one has great potential!!! Love it.

Thanks, shih! It is really starting to grow out

I'm in the same boat, I have 6 RR frags ready to mount but struggling to figure out where to mount them. Sadly some current residents must go :headwallblue:

Yep.. Gotta make room for the new stars. But sometimes it's hard to get rid of the sleepers or the super encrusted..
Do you have a build thread?? I've never seen it, if you do.. Post up those rr frags! I want to see'em!

How do you get great PE from
Your frags from
Uncle raja. Picked up this peice last week. And not much PE. even after broadcast feeding reef roids. Have some decent pe on other sps.View attachment 329641

Hey Cyberdude. Pe is a tricky and probably not completely understood phenomenon, it seems..
I don't claim to understand it.. Most people, me included, associate good pe with good coral health, but I'm not sure poor pe ALWAYS means poor coral health..
Here's a coral from my tank, from mid May. It had great pe:

Here it is today.. Zero pe. Hasn't had any for a couple months.. But it has grown slowly but steadily..


I do have a file fish in the tank who enjoys eating the polyps on many of my sps, so that is part of the problem in my case..
Does it have pe over night, when the lights are off?
I have found that many of my corals lost some pe when I had a nutrient drop while on vacation.. When nutrients were p:.12 and n:.05 many corals had great pe but when p dropped to .05 some corals lost pe but others didn't care.
There are always some that will have great pe and others that won't, ime...
Maybe it need more time to acclimate to your tank.. Some corals can take many weeks to get comfortable in a new environment.

 

[reefmutt]

I have achieved that point too in my tank. It is overpopulated , and the real state space is too valuable (like Manhattan :lolspin .

I though like you, but yesterday I rejected an incredible blue Acro, small colony, due to lack of space and due to my attachment to my old corals. Those guys survived my nutrient crash, where I lost several Corals colonies . They stayed with me in the worst moments and they fought to survive and continue in my display. Many of them are still recovering color and starting to grow new tissue. How I can take them out ? I feel strongly attached to them :love1:

Daniel :wildone:

Well Daniel, you have better will power or you aren't as sick as me because the only way I am able to NOT but a incredible acro is to have never set foot in the reef shop in the first place! With frags it or easy to jam them all in and then start removing the poor performers as things grow out.
That is very commendable of you to keep your old colonies that have survived it all.. I don't really have any of those.. Everything is at most, a year old..

By the way, Daniel, I am officially OFF the carbon wagon.. As of yesterday, I completely removed my biopellets! I'll keep an eye on nutrients but the system is keeping thing under control even though one of my skimmers died last week..

Looking really good...You have some future masterpeices in your collection

Thanks! Funny, I've heard that expression before!

Yes and there's that too, I also have a few crash survivors that are now doing quite well, and can't bring myself to removing them :love2:

When my tank crashed, it crashed.. And then leaked.. There were no survivors..

The tank looks great and Im so happy that corals are doing well! I do a lot of rearranging myself - i buy the big container of coraffix glue so I can easily re-set corals when I need to. Its hard to replace a coral you have had for a long time with one that is a better color or more interesting, but its our garden and keeping the exact same corals forever is kind of boring

I plan on loading up on corals at Reef-a-palooza soon and some of my old-timers will have to make way for some new ones I think. Its tempting to just stuff them all in there but Ill try to resist...

Receding is very much like gardening. We are trying to arrange form and colour to out liking as the corals grow out. Sometime I get crazy about one piece and I'll glue it in, come back the next day and realize I don't quite like it there or in that position and yank it out and reglue... And maybe come back again and do it again.. The coral ain't too happy but ultimately, I am..

What can I say? Your frags are breathtakingly beautiful. Have you got a recent FTS please?

I do not often see wild corals like the ones in your photos in my lfs. Did you get your frags from wild colonies or fellow reefers or mark-cultured colonies?

Thank you Bulent! I really don't know if a lot of my frags came from wild or cultured- especially if they were frags when I bought them.. That last deep water frag I posted was clipped from a small mother colony which was on a cement plug.. But it sure looks like a wild colony... It certainly is not a common cultured coral..
Most uncommon but cultured corals were probably taken from the wild, chopped up, glued to plugs and re grown.. Basically still a wild colony..
It seems that some suppliers will actually take wild corals and clue them to plugs to pass them off as cultured.. I guess to get around cites restrictions.. I don't know..
Some of the coral farms that are really on the ball, will research which corals are popular and try to start farming them right away, so they can ask more money for 'premium' cultured corals...
It's quite a convoluted business, it seems...

Cheers

Love the deepwaters as well, and that new frag looks fantastic. I was able to pick up a caroliniana (so it was called) that is a light blue under radiums and I'm hoping it will stay that way under T5.

How cool would an entire tank of deepwaters look?

Don't make me drool!

Mark! Let's see that caroliniana!! Post it up!
Matt, you must remember Leonardo's apogon reef??? It was almost completely populated by healthy mature deep water colonies.. Talk about making you drool! It was amazing.. He wrote it up in reef builders a few years back..
It was stunning..

 

[reefmutt]

One last frag to post..
Another stunning blue coral.. Getting darker still.. Not particularly uncommon but I love the blue!
Thanks raja!


Bulent, I will attempt another fts very soon, I promise!
Now that I have gone fully back to old fashioned methods of reef keeping (skimming, cheato fuge and dsb)... Except for the bacteria additions, I want to get a fts up as a 'day one' type of thing..

 

[mhucasey]

Well Daniel, you have better will power or you aren't as sick as me because the only way I am able to NOT but a incredible acro is to have never set foot in the reef shop in the first place! With frags it or easy to jam them all in and then start removing the poor performers as things grow out.
That is very commendable of you to keep your old colonies that have survived it all.. I don't really have any of those.. Everything is at most, a year old..

By the way, Daniel, I am officially OFF the carbon wagon.. As of yesterday, I completely removed my biopellets! I'll keep an eye on nutrients but the system is keeping thing under control even though one of my skimmers died last week..


Thanks! Funny, I've heard that expression before!


When my tank crashed, it crashed.. And then leaked.. There were no survivors..



Receding is very much like gardening. We are trying to arrange form and colour to out liking as the corals grow out. Sometime I get crazy about one piece and I'll glue it in, come back the next day and realize I don't quite like it there or in that position and yank it out and reglue... And maybe come back again and do it again.. The coral ain't too happy but ultimately, I am..







Mark! Let's see that caroliniana!! Post it up!
Matt, you must remember Leonardo's apogon reef??? It was almost completely populated by healthy mature deep water colonies.. Talk about making you drool! It was amazing.. He wrote it up in reef builders a few years back..
It was stunning..

Ha! Yep I looked it up because of the comment but there were a lot of non deepwater corals in there too. That was a stunning display.

Now his whole display is Poccis:uhoh3:
It's pretty for what it is but it's kind of like filling your garden with weeds..

 

[reefmutt]

I have to agree...... Pretty weeds, but......
Well, that's what makes the reefing world go around..