Reefahholic
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What should I do?
Left lights on last night on accident. TT ok or wait?
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Reefahholic
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Thank you!
I knew they fell off at night so I figured maybe since I didn't cut the lights off-they may not have dropped.
Great news!
I knew they fell off at night so I figured maybe since I didn't cut the lights off-they may not have dropped.
Great news!
DasCamel
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Why is it suggested to TT early morning then? Isn't better to have everyone do the most convenient time?
You want 72 hours or less between transfers and 12 days or more total in the entire process. It is simply easier to guarantee that if you pick a time and stick to it. Of course if you are doing 48 hours, less of a concern.
So, if someone did TT in the afternoon or evening or night, that would work equally as well? So long as it was 72 hours or less from the last transfer?
I ask because most people I know who would like to try TT have busy mornings... getting ready for work, getting kids off to school, etc. Doing it after work would be easier on their schedule.
Absolutely. And you could do 2x3x2x3x2x3 as long as you did not exceed the 72 hour recommended window for a given transfer and total days was 12 or more.
Spar
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+1 -- and I find myself saying this in a lot of threads... it is best to completely ignore the "early morning" part of the procedures. has always seemed odd to me how much people get hung up on that one part, given the whole reason that TTM works is because of the known 72 hour Tomite/Cyst rule, which has nothing to do with time of day.
i just personally do the early hours because i can just wake up 30 minutes early and do it, whereas I never know when I will be home from work or out later on weekends.
i just personally do the early hours because i can just wake up 30 minutes early and do it, whereas I never know when I will be home from work or out later on weekends.
Reefahholic
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So anytime on day three...morning, afternoon, evening, etc.
One is no more effective than the other?
One is no more effective than the other?
Exactly. When I wrote the procedure in the sticky, I was thinking about my personal schedule which can start earlier, but is less predictable later. 72 hours or less is critical. 12 days or more is essential.
Interesting... I just assumed since trophonts typically fall off the fish at night, that morning was the best time to do the transfer. 
Spar
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Interesting... I just assumed since trophonts typically fall off the fish at night, that morning was the best time to do the transfer.
studies show that most Trophont's jump off at night, but we can't be sure if that includes all of them. regardless of when they jump off though, they still have to crawl around for 2 to 18 hours as Protomont's, begin to encyst as Tomont's which takes 8 to 12 hours to harden, and then stay encysted as Tomites for 72 hours minimum. they will follow that regime regardless of what hour of the day they drop off. e.g. not like if they drop off at 8pm, the times reduce by X%.
So as long as you stick to 72-hour transfers, you will be leaving behind Tomites in the prior tank. this is the part that matters, the rest is just giving time for Tomites to form.
even if you transfer over a Protomont during slight water exchange, they will still have to go through the Tomont and Tomite stages which takes more than 72 hours, meaning they will get left behind in the next transfer instead. a key reason for the 4th transfer IMO, regardless of how unlikely it is.
Reefahholic
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Interesting... I just assumed since trophonts typically fall off the fish at night, that morning was the best time to do the transfer.
I thought the same thing. From what I've read and heard, early am was the time to do it.
Reefahholic
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That makes sense.
Spar
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and actually, when sitting back and thinking about the timing aspect... i would actually argue instead that late afternoon or early evening is the best time to do a transfer. if the Trophont's do indeed all jump off in the middle of the night, lets say 3am as a reference point. Given the entire point of TTM is to wait until Ich goes into the Tomite stage (cyst), then you would highly welcome letting the Protomont and Tomont stages to pass by, which could take between 10 and 30 hours.
just a thought to consider. otherwise if you do early morning water changes, you are much more likely to transfer Protomont's over. Albeit, as mentioned above, doesn't really matter anyway. but worth pointing out.
just a thought to consider. otherwise if you do early morning water changes, you are much more likely to transfer Protomont's over. Albeit, as mentioned above, doesn't really matter anyway. but worth pointing out.
Reefahholic
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If they will get caught on next transfer, why can't we use nets?
Reefahholic
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I think that would be a good idea.
Spar
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you can use nets. it just isn't recommended for fish safety. they get stuck and can injure themselves. also, nets can take longer to dry out, and since you need a solid 24+ hours of being dry (that is subsequent to however long it takes to become dry to begin with), you are edging it when using nets. similar situation goes with sponges and even airstones.
i don't even use nets when moving them to my DT for the safety/injury reason. i use my hands. i give them a little kiss on the way over for good luck :love2:
