Let's see 'em - Before and After pics of Vodka Dosing!

Mike,
How do you keep the stock mixture sterile, do you aliquate them out into several small tubes or container to prevent from contamination with bacteria, 0.5mL to 3mL/day will last you a very long time. Is refrigeration required?
Spencer
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12869000#post12869000 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pusanpa
miwoodar
Very impressive! How many fish do you have in your tank?
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Thanks. Four.

Pacific Blue (3 years)
6-Line (3.5 years)
Watchman Goby (3.5 years)
Flame Angel (~6 months)

I'm moving into a 140 shortly.

dme330i - those are looking good. It's like opening Christmas presents!

africangrey - I keep it in one of these in the fridge and draw it out by a syringe. If I'm feeling lazy I shoot directly from the bottle. I've measured shots from the bottle a handful of times and have always gotten fairly close to my target dosage of 1.5 mL/day.

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Anyone have any problems with Monti's while dosing vodka? I am having problems with Monti's losing their flesh. Started with my superman about 2 weeks ago, and now is effecting my danea's, Setosa, Undata, and digi's. Only acro I seem to be having a problem with is one of my blue torts. My caps seem to be fine as of now. The only other thing I can relate this to is an adjustment I made in my alkalinity. It was lower then I like at 7 dkh and I raised it to 10 dkh in about 4 days (by accident). Nothing else I can think of has changed with my system.
tom
 
Tom, from my understanding you want to keep your alk lower than usual at around 7-8. This is why it is so important to read, read and then read some more before jumping into something like this.
I am not saying that that is what is wrong, but it may be a contributing factor. By looking at Miwoodar's above pic I would say that monti's are not usually effected the way you are describing. Sorry to hear about you're losses. Will you be able to save any of them?

Spleify




-EDIT- Not that an alk of 7-8 is low, just on the lower scale of normal.
 
No, actually I like to keep it around 10. When I saw the problem with my Superman, I checked it and realized it had slipped down to about 7. I wanted to slowly bring it back up, and somehow miscalculated and brought it up quicker then I wanted. The reason I switched to the vodka method is I was using Prodibio and saw 0 results for too much $$. I read in the vodka thread that basically all Prodibio was was a carbon source and bacteria and I could pretty much do the same thing via vodka dosing. Am I way off base and misunderstood this?
tom
 
From the articles I have read it was my understanding that it was suggested to keep your alk on the lower end, 7-8, rather than the higher end, 10-11.
I have read a few of these threads but I believe this is the one that I am extracting this info from. If I remember correctly it is about 1/2-3/4 of the way through it.

I hope this helps, and I hope you will be able to save your effected animals.

Spleify
 
Thanks bud! I stopped dosing for the past two days now. I plan to let things get back to normal and start again taking notes and baby steps the whole way. Basically, even though I THOUGHT I was going slow, I really wasn't. I believe this is my problem. Thanks again!
tom
 
I'm not the expert on this stuff but, IMO, I would just go with Glassbox's VSV recipe linked on the first page of the thread. As far as dosing goes, I would go a lot slower than you often read in the threads (nothing to lose by going slow). I would start off at 0.25 mL/day for any tank and bump it by 0.25 every two weeks watching for nitrate and phosphate (if can actually test for it) reductions. Beyond that, I would watch the tank really closely. Watch for lightening/brightening of your SPS as a good sign. Watch for tannish bacterial growth on the surfaces or whitish cloudy water-borne blooms as signs of overdosing. Lastly, I would recommend watching your corals very closely for signs of adverse effects. If anything appears amiss, pause for a few weeks and begin again - you don't get to pick which bacterias flourish and you might end up in a situation in which a coral is trying to fight something that it is not able to beat at that particular point in time.
 
Hey guys i have been looking into this and i was wondering which Prodibio product to use the bio digest or bio digest pro as well as is there a fresh and a salt or are they for both? Also where can you purchase this product? thanks
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12899636#post12899636 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by TomRep
No, actually I like to keep it around 10. When I saw the problem with my Superman, I checked it and realized it had slipped down to about 7. I wanted to slowly bring it back up, and somehow miscalculated and brought it up quicker then I wanted. The reason I switched to the vodka method is I was using Prodibio and saw 0 results for too much $$. I read in the vodka thread that basically all Prodibio was was a carbon source and bacteria and I could pretty much do the same thing via vodka dosing. Am I way off base and misunderstood this?
tom
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Tom, I would stay the course your on... from all the reading up I have done on the concept of Vodka dosing says it is reccomended to lower your ALK to NSW levels due to "some" people experiencing burnt grow tips on their SPS corals. I have been running my alk around 9-10 for quite some time now and have yet to experience burn grow tips. I say keep with what your doing but adjust to your corals behavior.

$.02
 
hey Mike! Do u mind if i'm asking your vodka dosing recipe? and how much are u dosing /day? do u dose AA as well?
Appreciate for answering :-)

Thank!
 
I noticed a couple of my acros starting looking dodgy after approx. one month of vodka dosing, all else looked great though.

I have stopped dosing it now, and although I get feck all skimmate in comparison (no skimmer adjustments made), I now seem to have more macro growth. Could be imagining it though.

The "sick" acros are now recovering well, and all I did was stop dosing vodders.
Anyone else have this observation?

Regards
Conor.
 
after a couple of months, I had the same problem in my 125 gal. I think that the system stops being carbon limited when NO3 and PO4 get low, and the bacteria start doing things they should not. I reduced dosing from 3ml a day to.5ml a day, and everything perked right back up. I would still use the vodka, but at a greatly reduced level.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13588112#post13588112 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by shenyong
hey Mike! Do u mind if i'm asking your vodka dosing recipe? and how much are u dosing /day? do u dose AA as well?
Appreciate for answering :-)

Thank!
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I don't recall off the top of my head but I would like to say it is 15mL vodka, 15mL white vinegar, and a tablespoon of sugar.
 
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