Let's talk about Alkalinity, Calcium and Magnesium in an SPS Tank

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11055054#post11055054 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chercm
guys who to increase mg ?

Do you mean how to increase mg.

Make sure you measure first---it should be at 1300.

I use Kent Tech-m
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11055715#post11055715 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
Do you mean how to increase mg.

Make sure you measure first---it should be at 1300.

I use Kent Tech-m

i tried using Kent Tech-M but i cannot get the 1300. does it help by using epsom salt ?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11055852#post11055852 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chercm
i tried using Kent Tech-M but i cannot get the 1300. does it help by using epsom salt ?

what are your calcium and magnesium levels? and how are you dosing calcium?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11060010#post11060010 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by chercm
i am using kent marine turbo calcium

good product

its really important to know your calcium, magnesium , alk and pH levels---can you post these?
 
Joyt,

why are you dosing so much so fast? 90ml every 2 hrs? thats too much.

I run my dosers 24/7

I dose 11 ml per hour of each.

11ml x 24 hrs = 264 ml per day

Its better to dose slowly all day long then large amount quickly.

I arrived at that value easily. I did a search on RC to find what most people were dosing for my tank size. I started with that figure (9ml per hr I think it was) and fine tuned it from there.

I recently went to dosing Kalk using a reactor to lower my 2 part usage and to raise my pH. Its working beautifully.
Between running a hose to the outside for the skimmer and running Kalk my pH has gone from 77 to 8.1
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11074180#post11074180 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zedar
Joyt,

why are you dosing so much so fast? 90ml every 2 hrs? thats too much.

I run my dosers 24/7

I dose 11 ml per hour of each.

11ml x 24 hrs = 264 ml per day

Its better to dose slowly all day long then large amount quickly.

I arrived at that value easily. I did a search on RC to find what most people were dosing for my tank size. I started with that figure (9ml per hr I think it was) and fine tuned it from there.

I recently went to dosing Kalk using a reactor to lower my 2 part usage and to raise my pH. Its working beautifully.
Between running a hose to the outside for the skimmer and running Kalk my pH has gone from 77 to 8.1

Zedar,

Discover that my Ca solution was too diluted after using cj measuring method. dreaming while mixing the solution :). Now, everything is back to normal.:lol:
 
Re: Let's talk about Alkalinity, Calcium and Magnesium in an SPS Tank

May I know what is the difference you observed from SPS when magnesium level is at 1450-1500 ppm compared with that of 1300 ppm?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10500592#post10500592 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JB NY

Magnesium.
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I personally like to maintain magnesium levels at 1450-1500 ppm. For me that has worked out best. it allows me to easily maintain my alk and ca levels and my corals seem to do best at this level as well.
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I felt I had less problems keeping alk and ca stable. Also I personally felt I had slightly better coloration, YMMV on that part.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11201309#post11201309 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JB NY
I felt I had less problems keeping alk and ca stable. Also I personally felt I had slightly better coloration, YMMV on that part.

I think it was posted somewhere that high levels of magnesium carbonate can interfer with coral uptake of carbonates from calcium carbonate. I think it also went on that in very high levels of magnesium the corals can use it but with much less effeciency then they do with calcium carbonate.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11205099#post11205099 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JB NY
What is considered very high?

1500ppm or more

the articles/threads are on my laptop--I'll post them tomorrow
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11205565#post11205565 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
1500ppm or more

the articles/threads are on my laptop--I'll post them tomorrow

Please do as I'm curious. Suffice it to say, things cannot be quite as you described above ;)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11205621#post11205621 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MCsaxmaster
Please do as I'm curious. Suffice it to say, things cannot be quite as you described above ;)

lol--I think they were threads from you on magnesium-LOL

won't be the first time I interpreted wrong:eek:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11205621#post11205621 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MCsaxmaster
Please do as I'm curious. Suffice it to say, things cannot be quite as you described above ;)

I checked back on this thread--on page six you wrote a great piece on magnesium---but this was not the thread.

I only have a modest background in chemistry, but usually I am not too far off on comprehending what I have read.

With your obvious fantastic expertise perhaps you can clarify "things not cannot be "quite as your described above"

I'll concede to "quite" as a very tactful way of remarking about this :eek:
and ask your help here in clarifying.
 
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Originally posted by cwegescheide
One thing I notice is my PH is higher when my Alk is low.
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I think that is a given, right?

No, with lower alkalinity the pH will be lower, all other things being equal. If pH here really is lower when the alkalinity is higher, then CO2 must covary with alkalinity in this case. Hence, the CO2 becomes significantly higher as alkalinity climbs higher, causing the reduced pH.

cj
 
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