stony_corals
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Peter, stop switching your avatars, you're killing me..... beautiful male squami....
Lets talk about Vodka/sugar dosing
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Thanks! He's my pride and joy...oldest one in my tank. Well, the flames (not actually dispars) didn't make it
so I don't like to keep pics of RIP animals in my avatar 
I think I may still be playing catchup with my phosphates in my tank, so the GFO is still in use along with vodka.
I'm still waiting for any *significant* change in color of my corals. I'm up to 10mL per day.
stony_corals
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You shouldn't have any issues with vodka and GFO. I don't know about Ultralithe or Prodibio, but I know with Zeo that's a no-no. On one system that I just reset up (long story), I ran GFO while dosing vodka, no problems.... I'd think though, Peter, with your MRC2, it'd be blowing phosphates off all day long big time. This IMHO is the advantage of using Becketts and Downdrafts (not going there)....
I don't have my log book handy... But on a system of similar size 125g, I ramped up to nearly 20ml, and currently on a maintenance dosage of ~9ml daily. But I'm assuming bioloads are different system-to-system.... It's good you're being patient with this, you'll see results
I don't have my log book handy... But on a system of similar size 125g, I ramped up to nearly 20ml, and currently on a maintenance dosage of ~9ml daily. But I'm assuming bioloads are different system-to-system.... It's good you're being patient with this, you'll see results
I am having an issue with STN at the bases of certain acros. Only the very most shaded edges/backsides. Other fully lit edges are growing fine, so that suggests a flow/light issue? Not really sure if there is any connection to the vodka, since it started before that. Most noticeable on my tricolors, which probably has to do with the burnt tips I had on my tricolors a few weeks ago. Hmmm, too many variables. I need an aspirin
stony_corals
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Too many systems, I'm lazy, once daily when the lights are on....
stony_corals
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11109452#post11109452 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
I am having an issue with STN at the bases of certain acros. Only the very most shaded edges/backsides. Other fully lit edges are growing fine, so that suggests a flow/light issue? Not really sure if there is any connection to the vodka, since it started before that. Most noticeable on my tricolors, which probably has to do with the burnt tips I had on my tricolors a few weeks ago. Hmmm, too many variables. I need an aspirin
I'd say flow/light issue... IMHO. The other thing I've noticed is that certain corals don't do as well under nutrient poor conditions... ORA come to mind. They seem to do better in high nutrient level conditions.... just an observation.
smalltime
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Theres plenty of information here about Vodka dosing. Where is the info about sugar? I know sugar is being dosed to have diversity in bacteria so you don't monticulture. Where is the dosing schedule for sugar?
Is there a certain brand of sugar people are using? Granulated sugar(table-sugar product refined to 99.9% pure sucrose) or Raw sugar(unrefined sucrose)?
Is there a certain brand of sugar people are using? Granulated sugar(table-sugar product refined to 99.9% pure sucrose) or Raw sugar(unrefined sucrose)?
OK, checked everything today. All levels are spot on.
9.6dKH
460ppm Ca
1450ppm Mg
1.025 salinity
80F
NO3 salifert 0?
PO4 salifert 0?
, except pH. Was at it's lowest (morning before lights on) at 7.8. Hmm, is this a function of the bacterial growth/respiration? Did you track this parameter while dosing? It's not much lower than normal, but still, just trying to figure out this recession, in case it's not flow/lighting.
stony_corals
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I run reactors... so at that time, my systems run ~7.9. This is a little lower than pre vodka, so I'm assuming that's the cause... Yeah everything looks good. Flow?
Smalltime, I don't know why there's no dosing guidelines for sugar... I tried a pinch/day and that didn't do much for me.... What are you doing
smalltime
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I'm debating on the sugar addition to my tank but everything sounds good on the Vodka. I've read the entire Vodka / Sugar dosing thread in the Chemistry Forum and found this to be a general guideline for Vodka:
DSB tanks react very sensitively on vodka supplementation, thus be careful! If you run a DSB without a skimmer, you should add one to your tank.
Vodka should be supplemented daily during the lighting phase.
You can start with 0.1 mL/100 L for the first three days.
Then you increase the vodka volume to 0.2 mL/100 L for day 4-7.
Subsequently to this initial week you increase the vodka dose by 0.5 mL per total tank volume (this is important, do not dose on a per 100L basis, but on the total tank volume!) every week.
So, e.g. for a 500 L tank:
day 1-3: 0.1 * 5 = 0.5 mL
day 4-7: 0.2 * 5 = 1 mL
2. week (day 8-14): 1 mL + 0.5 mL = 1.5 mL
3. week: 1.5 mL + 0.5 mL = 2 mL.
After these 3 weeks you should recognize changes in the nutrient levels (nitrate, phosphate). If the nutrient levels are still unchanged, you should further increase the dose by 0.5 mL per total tank volume.
As soon as you recognize either nitrate or phosphate to start dropping you shouldn't further increase the vodka volume but watch the nutrient levels, even in the first three weeks.
You should log your nutrient measurements and monitor the nutrient levels on a regular basis (every 3 days).
Also an efficeint / oversized skimmer is a must!
Still looking for the Sugar Guidelines.
DSB tanks react very sensitively on vodka supplementation, thus be careful! If you run a DSB without a skimmer, you should add one to your tank.
Vodka should be supplemented daily during the lighting phase.
You can start with 0.1 mL/100 L for the first three days.
Then you increase the vodka volume to 0.2 mL/100 L for day 4-7.
Subsequently to this initial week you increase the vodka dose by 0.5 mL per total tank volume (this is important, do not dose on a per 100L basis, but on the total tank volume!) every week.
So, e.g. for a 500 L tank:
day 1-3: 0.1 * 5 = 0.5 mL
day 4-7: 0.2 * 5 = 1 mL
2. week (day 8-14): 1 mL + 0.5 mL = 1.5 mL
3. week: 1.5 mL + 0.5 mL = 2 mL.
After these 3 weeks you should recognize changes in the nutrient levels (nitrate, phosphate). If the nutrient levels are still unchanged, you should further increase the dose by 0.5 mL per total tank volume.
As soon as you recognize either nitrate or phosphate to start dropping you shouldn't further increase the vodka volume but watch the nutrient levels, even in the first three weeks.
You should log your nutrient measurements and monitor the nutrient levels on a regular basis (every 3 days).
Also an efficeint / oversized skimmer is a must!
Still looking for the Sugar Guidelines.
Stony actually linked to that thread in the OP, so for anyone that wants to read more, here it is again....
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showt...8714&perpage=25&highlight=vodka&pagenumber=21)
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showt...8714&perpage=25&highlight=vodka&pagenumber=21)
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I use a GEO reactor, PH alittle low but low PH has never scared me as it does some. My PH is 7.88 ~8.14 depending on time of day. I don;'t use Kalk currently, but have been consideing adding it again, just to ease the flow of the reactor. The SPS are really taking off and i haven;t got dialed back in yet (which is usually very easy).
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