Let's talk photography...

Yes, That's kinda what I was thinking. I figured that I would have between 140 and 150 into it total by the time I do bulkheads, glass, holes, silicone and everything. I think I have a couple gently used lids you can have... and I diy you up some black eductors if you liked mine upstairs,(you may have to buy the lock-line as I'm out, or I can and add that in, or they could be hard plumbed.), I'll even run a closed loopbut it has to be plumbed thru the back though... figure about 8 or so bucks a hole, by the time you do the bulkhead and the fitting. I'd want you to approve the 75, now that it's dry, but say... I'll give you the 75 as above plus 200???

We would need to talk.

Jason
 
yeah that actually sounds like a fair deal to me.

I loved how you built the black overflow into the 29, but 29 is just too small for me. Plus, I could still use my AquaC Remora skimmer on a 75 since its rated to 90 gallons. Any idea for lights on the 75? I'd pay you to help me build a nice stand/hood.
 
Call Me. 1 800 929 9921 I'd rather not gunk up the thread, and what it takes me to tell you in 30 seconds would take me about 15 minutes to type.

Jason
 
Jason, yep that was me and well machined I am not sure what you would call it I bought a router that came with a table and did them on it. Put some on my tank too but not that long they tuned out pretty nice.

I might be looking for some more water holders too. Can't figure out if I want to get into this hatchery thing (got about 75 baby Maroons now on day 4) or if I would like a fish with live rock tank. :confused: :rolleye1:

My Mama is quite ornery if you put your hand in the tank anywhere near her side she will nip at you Dad isn't quite so bad but he does come at you too. If I had another pair and they stayed at opposite ends of the tank it would probably be ok otherwise I think she would do allot of picking. The other fish swim by but they don't linger to long.:lol: I just got lucky with my pair I bought one and a little while later bought another and they scraped a little but they defiantly are a pair now. They are like a little over two years old.
 
I have a pic of the fry collecting equiptment from the Coral magazine I should show you.

I'd also be really interested in talking to you about your jig for making your finger/overflow topper. I have a router, but no table. My 75 has black glass overflows, and occasionally I have to rescue someone out of the holding tank at the bottom of the overflow.

J
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6651570#post6651570 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mako56
So you think thats funny huh well all three of them are 450 - 600 and I don't know how to use any of them. :lol: :lol: :lol: Thats really funny but I am learning.

Mike, Kevin and I both LOL'd at that one! :D

Jason, Mike's bad, he's the reason I have my camera! bad bad influence Mike... can I come over and play with the macro again? :D
I also have a Rebel XT 350D and I'm also learning as I go. There's so much to learn, I just can't absorb it all, so I pick one thing and play... the last couple days it's been the B/W feature.
The battery does rock! It sure beats changing AA batteries every couple days.
Someone on the first page said that you can get a macro lense for $350??? Where? I'd love to have one but since it's strictly a toy I really want to spend as little as possible.
 
Here are Canons Macro Lenses.

Macro Lenses for Canon

They range from $239 to $1300.

Also, you can read reviews on them here(these are the Canons but you can click back and check out the other brands) Only the lenses that say Macro are true macros

Macro Lens Reviews

I hear the Canon Telephoto EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Autofocus Lens is a great lens for aquarium photography.

I usually never buy a lens unless it gets an 8.5 or better on Fredmiranda.com
 
Not sure if any of you are interested in wide angle, but I just bought a Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM lens for landscape photography. I have read that Canon reps say it was made with professional glass(L-glass) but wasn't labeled that way. I just got it Tuesday..heres my first pic, of course it was of my dog.

(The end of the lens was only 1 foot from my dogs face when I snapped this)
http://www.holdren.org/350D/10-22/maui14.jpg

I can't wait to get some cool sunset shots with this. 10mm on a Rebel XT is equivilant to 16mm.
 
I gota slow down some on the camera but a wide angle would be cool. Is there some kind of attachment that fits on some lenses?
 
Mike, I got a wide angle with my camera package... I have the UV lense screwed onto the end of the lense, and the wide angle will screw right onto the end of that. My wide angle says:
Crystal View PrecisionOptics Japan 0.5X AF Macro Super High Definition
I'm a bit confused how it can be macro and wide angle at the same time??? It does work nice tho for getting shots when you can't back up far enough with a regular lense.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6720907#post6720907 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mako56
I gota slow down some on the camera but a wide angle would be cool. Is there some kind of attachment that fits on some lenses?


Not really sure what you mean by this. You can get lens attachments (extension tubes) for macro photography, but there aren't any attachments which make your current lens a wide angle lens.

Here is a shot I took of my dog yesterday. Its at 200mm with the same 70-200mm lens you have.

http://www.holdren.org/puppy/slides/mauifarm.html

Might have been calendar worthy had my wifes legs not been in the pic!
 
I've got the predecessory the the 350D (Canon Digital Rebel EOS 300D). It replaced an older 1.3MP Olympus cam. While the old cam was really good for its time, there is NO comparison between the two. I'm not sure what's all been upgraded on the 350, but it may still be a good time to find a 300D at a substantially reduced price due to the introduction of the new model.

I still haven't figured most of it out yet (had it near two years now!) but it still takes phenomenal pictures. I've added some macro screw-on type lenses (not the full-blown lens replacement) and have a UV and polarity filter that I haven't quite found a use for yet. :D

I don't have any of my better pictures here at work right now, but I've got a few in my gallery that are half-decent. This is no flash, no tripod, hence it's not quite as crisp as it could be. I'm also holding the frag in my other hand, so I made it possible to make it the worst shot ever!

Oh, and for scale, this frag is about an inch tall.

81760unknown_acro3.jpg
 
TJ,

I was looking at 2 different packages at B and P today. one was lised as having a USM lens, the other does not specify...

What's the difference between athe 18-55mm usm and the 18-55mm?

and

Were you serious about selling your 18-55mm lens, if so drop me a pm with the $. I may just pickup the camera with a different lens right away.


I'm getting closer. I felt my heart race a bit when I was holding Jessica's this weekend. (and I was just affraid I was going to drop it.) Today, I had my card out and was punching #'s before I started having second thoughts.


Jason
 
can you give me the links on B&Hs website. theres only one 18-55mm lens that Im aware of. THey might have left out the USM part by accident. You have a PM
 
file:///C:/WINDOWS/Desktop/Sand%20Castle%20Reef%20Works/default.htm

scroll down to the one marked 1319 ans 1279$

??? what did I miss?

J
 
USM Ultra Sonic Motor. The ring type was developed first and is the best type, very fast, almost compleatly silent, front element does not turn and you can adjust focus manualy at any time with out putting the switch in manual. This comes at higher cost. Micro was later developed for the lenses one step above the noisy and slower AFD motor such as the type found in the kit lenses and lenses like the 50 f1.8 or the 28 f2.8.

Jason, I had the same question about the USM and found the above response. Check out this link for the actual thread... I am TigerTail on that board.

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=132914&highlight=usm
 
Either was, TJ, go to BP's site, and search for "20D" and scroll down to the only 2 that are in stock for that price. the only appearant dif is the USM classification. I was really tiered last night. I created an internal web page to keep all the infor organized that I use on a frequent basis... like all my RC links, and links to glass companies, and now the camera search.

Jessica, So if I read the above and link correctly, the USM is better. And it's not actually a motor, it's the mechanism that drives the lens....

J
 
Just curious why you want to spend the extra money on a 20D. The only meaninful differences the 20D has is that it has a higher shutter speed and a higher ISO. Neither of these things are going to make a difference to you. The 20D is quite heavier and bulkier than the 350D.

Both the 350D and 20D have the exact same image sensor(which means their image quality is the exact same). Some people even claim the 350D gets better pics.

If you are going to go with one of the 20D packages, get the lens with the USM motor($40 difference). USM is better than no USM.

Honestly saving the extra money by getting the 350D, and putting the extra money you saved towards a better lens is your best bet. You will find out really quick that with lenses, you get what you pay for. Good glass is so important when it comes to image quality. I already have almost $1600 invested in just lenses!(more than the price of the camera).
 
Last edited:
I really had to search for the article that I read online...It kinda swayed me toward the 20D. Probably for the same reason I did not but the kodak DC210, 240 but the 280 (for almost 150$ more) I also (someday) will be in the market for a underwater case, I did not see as many options for the 350D... but here's that article and link if you want it in it's entirity.

From: http://photospot2004.blogspot.com/2005/04/why-i-chose-canon-eos-20d.html

Canon Digital Rebel XT : 350D
Earlier this year, right around when I was closing in on placing my order, canon announced the next incarnation of 300D, the Canon Digital Rebel XT - 350D. And this caused a lot of dilemma! 350D or 20D ?(many folks are going through this right now... May be you too... Hmm let me get inside your head).

By all means, 350D was more like 20D's guts and brains cramped into the 300D's body and then shrunk even further. Moreover, 350D was to be sold at $500 less then 20D. So why in the world myself or anybody else would buy a 20D instead of this 350D. Well this is a completely debatable topic that can compete with Canon vs Nikon argument. There are strong reasons to buy either of these cameras. It's upto you to find out what is more appealing to you. Below is a list of what I thought about these differences.

Image size
20D : 8.2MP
350D : 8 MP
This was negligible.

Image Quality
They have different sensor, but both camera produce almost equal quality pics in identical conditions. A pro may nitpick little bit here and there. But hey, if you and me can not see the difference even at closer inspection, the difference is not there.

Build Quality
20D: Very robust, Magnesium Alloy Body with Rubber Grip.
350D: Plastic Body, no rubber grip.
First time, when I held my friend's Olympus C5060 camera in my hand, I could feel the difference between his camera and my plastic body Canon G5. C5060 felt much more robust because of it's magnesium alloy body. So I was definitely biased towards 20D with Magnesium Alloy body. Also, for someone, just wandering into dSLR world for "higher megapixel" or "better image quality" or "smarter auto modes", preferences would be still like "I still want something light and small". I was coming in from a different angle. I wanted to build a good lineup of lenses over the coming years. So whatever I get had to last few years, and had to be able to hold heavier lenses. Naturally I would go with 20D.

Weight
20D : No doubt this guy is heavy, 27.2 oz
350D : And this one is even lighter then 300D, Only 19.0 oz.
Now that is a BIG difference of weight. But again, that's what it will be if you want it robust and well built. You cannot be an 8 seater, off road vehicle and be feather weight at the same time.

Size
20D is 0.7 inch longer, 0.5 inch taller and 0.3 inch thicker then 350D. 350D is actually even smaller then 300D. For me, a person with relatively large hands, 350D felt too small for a better grip, while 20D would just fill my hands for a perfect stable grip.

Another temptation was, why not get 350D + a nice Canon lens with Image stabilization, in the same amount for which I'll get 20D with the entry level kit lens? Well, I thought, lens I can always add later on. Why compromise on camera body right now?

So I ended up choosing 20D over 350D as well. Even though the image quality differences were minimal, I selected 20D for better ergonomics and robust build quality.

Posted with permision, but relavant.
---------------------
I didn't/don't want to get "cheap"(used incredibly loosely). Am I wrong by reading into this an beleiving that the 20D is more "professional grade" and less entry level DSLR (no offense to those who have one). I mean, I can hear you already, "You paid 500$ more for a camera you don't even know how to use???" But seriously. If I bought the 20D, the entry lens the 18-55mm, and perhaps a great lense like that 70-300mm you mentioned back a page... and sat back a while... Will I be happy?

Jason
 
Last edited:
Back
Top