Levamisole In-Tank Treatment for AEFW

I'll say again when it come to how much weight to use to how many gallons, please state the product you are using as the Levi source materials. the concentration of Levi varies a LOT! product to product.

john90009 said:
how big are your colonies jcoletti? i think that alot of times with large colonies- something where the inside of the coral around the base gets no flow may be a spot where the flatworms hide and not much of the leviminsol gets in there- keep trying and follow up with another treatment- next time when the levi is in there baste the corals or hit them with a powerhead and see if any fall off coral and shrivel up in the water.
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I think this is absolutely true! Using a power head to move the water around is a great idea. One reason I don;t feel dips are always succesful is that the AEFWs are hiding under bases and the concetration of Levi or CoralRx or ReVive or whatever is not attaining a high enough level in that crevis so the the bugger survives. Thtis may be why it takes a few minutes to see the AEFWs jump off your frags while dipping, if the coral can take it, I leave it in the dip fro 15 minutes and sometimes the AEFW does not hop off till the end.

This concetration issue can easily happen in our displays too. WHile the active ingrediaent Levamisole hydrochloride is completely souable in water,it may take time to reach cracks and crevises in the live rock and under bases. There is always the possibility it wont reach some AEFWs with a leathal dose on every treatment event.

Blasting or "mixing" with a PH would help. Also treating before the lights come on when they are out and about would be a big help! They come out at night to feed AND LAY EGGS! They hide during the day to avoid become a snack!

I am convinced that many more fish then we are aware of, not just wrasses, dine on these critters. This nibbling helps keep them in check but does not erradicate them and we don't see it until they attain plauge levels of populations. I am sure my heniocus butterfly searches for them and I suspect my dwarf angel, a CB, does as well. Having the long snout and big googly eyes, my heniocus is just better at it.
 
From what I remember, their eggs also have about a 10 day hatching cycle. That's why it is critical to continue treatment every 12 - 14 days. In order to completely get rid of any pest, you have to nuke the adults, and during the second treatment you will hopefully nuke the new offspring before they reproduce. These are protected by the membrane from the egg sacks during the first treatment.

Make sure you are turning off your skimmer, GAC, and any other filtration devices for 12 hours. After 12 hours, replace the carbon reactor with fresh the GAC and turn the skimmer on. Make sure you have enough water made up to do a 25% water change just in case you get some ammonia build up from the die off of the pest. You will also want to try to siphon out as many flatworms that you see, especially if you are treating for the common red planarias since they can easily get in plague portions.
 
James,

just to be sure. You are using the vermisol sold by foys pigeon supply?

That's what I will be trying. I am going to do this more as a preventative measure and would consider regular periodic treatments just to be certain there are none living in the qt tank as I am getting in new stuff often.

My qt is a 30 breeder. Can you give me an idea how much of the foys I should use? I am a little hazy on the math.

Otherwise it seems aside from a few speedbumbs this treatment is proving to be effective so far. I'll be adding my own observations soon. Although I do not have a thriving AEFW population in my QT or my DT. I just want to be sure that my new arrivals are clean before they get moved out of the qt. This seem like a pretty good means of insuring that. As opposed to dipping every coral leaving the chance that a few stray worms that may be traveling on the rock survive work while everything else gets dipped.
 
Yep I am using vermisol from foys, I would suggest getting the powder form from them. Would you say its 30g of water volume? If so the calculation would be

5/300x30 = .50 grams of levamisole needed

7.5 grams total levamisole in the vermisol powder bottle (100g)

7.5/100 = .075 grams

.50/.075 = 6.66 grams of vermisol powder for dose.


You could also just get the PROHIBIT product which is nearly pure levamisole, at the time of my dosing I had looked high and low and everywhere seemed to be out of stock, seems like it is easy to get from the stores others linked.
 
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also, if you are using Vermisole, here is a formula for you

(Total Water Volume / .075) X (.016667) = Amount of Vermisole (g) needed for treatment.
 
Good luck Jame. Something I'm going to try on my next dose is use a turkey baster to hit all the corals and liverock directly. I haven't seen any flatworms since I started treating not even eggs. Keep us posted on your results.
 
Thanks a ton,

Do you think the prohibit is a better way to go?

I already have the vermisol powder. I figured if anything looked questionable I could easily do a large water change on that small a tank to avoid any major inhabitant problems.

I'll stay tuned.
 
If you already have the vermisol then I would use that, its what I have used and although I can't claim success yet, it seems like it worked well.
 
Has anyone not put their GAC reactor back inline after a treatment? I won't be able to add carbon back to my tank until tomorrow. My first treatment was yesterday.

Scott
 
just treated my tank with the same pills from foyes- i to have a 75 gallon tank with a 40 sump and decided to be safe and go with just the 75 gallon dosage of 53 pills. after about 30 minutes of going in i didnt see anyhting fall off till i maxi jeted and got 3 to fly off- i did not see the shrivel up like i usually do when i toss them in revive so i threw in 5 more pills which would be around the 85 gallons of water i recall having to add to the tank when i filled it up.
 
If you can't put your carbon back online, just do a water change. I don't think it's gonna hurt anything waiting a day to put it back online.

Just my 2 cents though
 
Doing my second treatment in one hour. Just turned all lights off - shades are down in the house becasue of the hot temps here today, so nice and dark to let the little crawlies come out. As a side note, it is not necessary to crush the pills - I put 24 pills into a cup and a half of rodi, and they had broken down nearly completely in less than 30 seconds. A 10 second shake and the pills were just as fully broken down as the first time when I had crushed them. So, there is one step eliminated, making treatment a bit easier. Going to leave lights off for an hour then start the treatment. Then, at 30 minute intervals, I'm going to blow things around with a korallia 1050.
 
iv been following this flatworm travel ontop of the sand now onto the glass for like 30 minutes and he seems to be cruisin : /
 
I just got done treating my180 with 40 grams of levamisole from foys.It was a flatworm storm in the tank, all the fish were chowing down on them. I didnt realize how many of the worms were in my tank.I guess that explaines why my corals were doing so bad. I plan on treating the tank in another ten days.
 
: / am i the only one or was 58 pills in a 75 gallon tank with 40 gallon sump( i figured the water volume to be around 86 gallons total water) not enough>??
 
john90009 said:
: / am i the only one or was 58 pills in a 75 gallon tank with 40 gallon sump( i figured the water volume to be around 86 gallons total water) not enough>??
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John

That sounds like the dose that James used for his 75 g + 30 sump?

Are you sure it is the same product?
 
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