LFS Says I should not... what do you say?

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isomorphic85

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LFS says that I should not add two ocellaris clownfish 1 orange and white and 1 black and white at the same time if they are both medium in size bc they will fight each other.

I thought that as long as they were added at the same time they would be fine?

thoughts?
 
for clowns you try to get one big one small. you dont want two the same size because if you get two females they will fight to the death.
 
I would agree with you lfs. If you really want to do this I would get a definite size difference.
 
Never the same size. It's good that you checked up on your lfs, but this is very common knowledge, and they gave you the correct info.
 
hobbzz said:
Never the same size. It's good that you checked up on your lfs, but this is very common knowledge, and they gave you the correct info.
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This. Most likely both fish have begun the path towards sexual maturity and if so, only one will survive.
 
I appreciate the advice guys... i was originally planning on going with 2 medium sized as live aquaria advised me I shouldn't have any issues.

as always I come to this forum as you guy's are the ones that I can truly trust.



while on it, I've also been getting conflicting reports , some saying ocellaris are much more aggressive then maroon clowns and vice versa.

Out of these 3 which are the most peaceful?

orange and white ocellaris

black and white ocellaris

maroon clown

Thanks again everyone I really do appreciate your time
 
isomorphic85 said:
I appreciate the advice guys... i was originally planning on going with 2 medium sized as live aquaria advised me I shouldn't have any issues.

as always I come to this forum as you guy's are the ones that I can truly trust.



while on it, I've also been getting conflicting reports , some saying ocellaris are much more aggressive then maroon clowns and vice versa.

Out of these 3 which are the most peaceful?

orange and white ocellaris

black and white ocellaris

maroon clown holy terror; will bite aquarist

Thanks again everyone I really do appreciate your time
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A pair of sexually mature ocellaris will want to control about 25 gallons of tank space; a sexually mature pair of maroon clowns will own 50 gallons of tank space and probably try to control more.
 
great... I plan on going with 1 orange and white ocellaris and 1 black and white ocellaris...

thoughts on which one should be the larger one or will it not matter?

snorvich thanks for the heads up on the maroon clown lol
 
isomorphic85 said:
great... I plan on going with 1 orange and white ocellaris and 1 black and white ocellaris...

thoughts on which one should be the larger one or will it not matter?

snorvich thanks for the heads up on the maroon clown lol
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I would get two tiny ones and let them work it out. :love2:
 
here's a real newb question if i were to go with the 2 small ocellaris would they still do ok in a tank if there are larger other fish , yellow tang or hippo tang etc..

currently there are no other fish in the tank the 2 clowns will be the firsts.
 
isomorphic85 said:
I appreciate the advice guys... i was originally planning on going with 2 medium sized as live aquaria advised me I shouldn't have any issues.

as always I come to this forum as you guy's are the ones that I can truly trust.



while on it, I've also been getting conflicting reports , some saying ocellaris are much more aggressive then maroon clowns and vice versa.

Out of these 3 which are the most peaceful?

orange and white ocellaris

black and white ocellaris

maroon clown

Thanks again everyone I really do appreciate your time
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Well, it ain't the maroons :uzi:
 
isomorphic85 said:
here's a real newb question if i were to go with the 2 small ocellaris would they still do ok in a tank if there are larger other fish , yellow tang or hippo tang etc..

currently there are no other fish in the tank the 2 clowns will be the firsts.
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That should be fine, but why not buy a mated pair? :dance:
 
Agreed...all the research I've done and things I've learned says the same....but there is the chance one will change to male..... I got two ocelleris clowns at the same time....couldn't order two different sizes....what ended up happening was one kid of limited the food to the other until it was noticeably bigger than the other and the small one submitted to the bigger do now I have a female and male who seem to have paired up. They did they're fighting and dancing and now they sleep together in the and anemone and everything
hotelbravo said:
for clowns you try to get one big one small. you dont want two the same size because if you get two females they will fight to the death.
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I got two small ones from the same spawn, tank raised pair. They were the size of my thumb when I got them. They got along fine and took a little over a year for they became male and female. I've had them now for just under six years. The female is now almost twice his size!
 
I bought 2 small orange occ, but one clearly larger than the other. The small one died the first week. So I then bought a very small misbar black and white occ and the orange one swam over to the small black one immediately and they have been inseparable ever since. In 5 months, the orange dominant one has almost doubled in size and the black one hasnt grown at all. I love having one of each color though.
 
snorvich said:
A pair of sexually mature ocellaris will want to control about 25 gallons of tank space; a sexually mature pair of maroon clowns will own 50 gallons of tank space and probably try to control more.
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That depends a lot on the tank mates and if they have an anemone or not.

I had an ocellaris pair in a flowerpot without anemone claiming an entire 750 liter tank its own private kingdom while a fully grown clarkii pair that lived in a 30 cm BTA only claimed about 20 cm around its anemone.

It was quite similar with the above ocellaris when I had them in an anemone in a smaller tank. They only claimed the anemone and its immediate surrounding and you could see that they felt extremely insecure as soon as they left that safety zone.

I see the same right now with my current percula pairs.

So if you want to keep your clownfish restrained to a defined range give them an anemone (ideally one of their natural hosts).
 
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