lighting for cali/ora tort

mikid

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i was just wondering it anyone/sure someones got one, cali tort or ore tort,what kind of lighting do you have under and at what level in tank,purchase cali tort a month ago,was drk neon green bodied with bluish tips at store,but now the green has gone to drk greenish/brown and the tips are harding blue,polyp extension seems ok? any suggestions,thxs mikd,mars member:confused:
 
cali tort

cali tort

ive got a sunpod 150hqi setup,sps at top of tank doing excellant,good growth .polyp extension/, this is the only one that i feel could be moved but until i hear differant i dont want to move it:confused:
 
Re: cali tort

Re: cali tort

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10230436#post10230436 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mikid
ive got a sunpod 150hqi setup,sps at top of tank doing excellant,good growth .polyp extension/, this is the only one that i feel could be moved but until i hear differant i dont want to move it:confused:

Could be a couple of possibilities it sounds like at face value. Xia's suggestion could be one of them. Or, potentially to high of levels of phosphates or nitrates or both? What spectrum of bulb are you using? I know lighting plays a considerable part in the coloration and appearance. Too much too fast can cause a brown out, or acclimated but very intense lighting can make it purple and really blue with a light color base, while less intense light the base gets an emerald green and tips and branches are more purple than blue. I dont consider this coral a high light demanding coral in perportion to other sps. I think it's very forgiving, and will eventually acclimate to your tank provided water quality is good and equally important, stable and reasonably consistant. For what it's worth, mine took quite a while before it started to take off and had a dull fading to brown look for the first few months.




-Justin
 
This Cali tort was started from less than an inch, and grew like a mother under Power Compact and tap water of all things.
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-Justin
 
Justin,
What was the time it took to grow from a frag to what you posted? I have 2 Oregon Tort frags & want to know how long it will take to grow them to the size of what you have.

OP: I have them under 6x54 T5's, about 1/2 way down the tank - lights are
AquaBlue+
Actinic 03
10000K
Actinc 03
10000K
50/50 White/Actinic

I have great polyp extension & trunk is deep blue.
 
Sorry for any confusion, but that was Alex's picture. I just wanted to show that there is more than one way to skin a cat. My best guess of recolection makes me think that it was under a years worth of growth though.

Mine is also just over a year old, this pic was taken about 3 months ago, mine is just behind the blurry chromis in the middle of the pic.
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-Justin
 
What was the time it took to grow from a frag to what you posted? I have 2 Oregon Tort frags & want to know how long it will take to grow them to the size of what you have.

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IME, the cali tort grows quicker than the oregon tort. I did not want there to be any confusion. My ORA tort grow faster than my cali and my oregon.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10232129#post10232129 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Marko9
IME, the cali tort grows quicker than the oregon tort. I did not want there to be any confusion. My ORA tort grow faster than my cali and my oregon.

Possibly different water flow and light intensity are making the difference in growth? The ORA blue tort is the same coral as the Cali Tort.


-Justin
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10232486#post10232486 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justin74
Possibly different water flow and light intensity are making the difference in growth? The ORA blue tort is the same coral as the Cali Tort.


-Justin

Yep, But I got an ORA piece that grows twice as fast as one I got from John. I bought them in the same week. They are both up high in the tank, if anything, the ORA gets less light.

The ORA has grown twice as much as the other. ORA has produced so many more generations of this coral that it reponds quicker in many tanks. I think the ORA pieces are great. Great colors and quick growers.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10232549#post10232549 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Marko9
Yep, But I got an ORA piece that grows twice as fast as one I got from John. I bought them in the same week. They are both up high in the tank, if anything, the ORA gets less light.

The ORA has grown twice as much as the other. ORA has produced so many more generations of this coral that it reponds quicker in many tanks. I think the ORA pieces are great. Great colors and quick growers.

I think I may understand your point :) But it is definately debateable :)

Of course I can't argue with what you see in your tank ;) But at the same time I hold it with a grain of salt, no pun intended. Even the slightest difference can cause dramatic differences, moreso flow, but light included. I have a 2 sticks of the same coral 1' apart, with only the slightest variant of light and flow(which lies me to my own grain of salt, ones perceptions of what are same and what is different and what is only slightly different?) The one up slightly higher is has encrusted half of a 5" rock and is about 4x4" the one only 4" lower is about 6x7 with only a silver dollar size of encrusting base.

With the generation thing, personally I think the cali tort has been propogated more. That will probably quickly change soon since ORA has picked up the pieces and is no longer on hiatus, and are again increasing in popularity. But still there is a huge world buying,growing, trading and selling outside of the internet and club forums. Like we all hear we are but 10% of the buying force. And there were quite a few years of sporatic exchanging before ORA started consistantly producing them.

Another difference that competes with the theory of aquaculture cali vs ORA is how many different tanks the cali has been propagated from across the globe as opposed to being propagated from one system, that uses NSW. The cali by theory and potential should be much more resiliant being exposed to a plethera of different closed systems of various hobbyists in turn again by theory increasing it's tolerance to aquaria.

In my own situation I heard about the Cali-tort long before and much more frequent than ORA's blut tort became popular and then everyone was informed of the distribution of the original colony.

-Justin
 
Sorry, I called in sick.
Lucky you!


:lol:


All in a friendly debate. And will be the first to disclose I have no documents to support my contentions :D


-Justin
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10232894#post10232894 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justin74
I think I may understand your point :) But it is definately debateable :)


-Justin

Justin, I agree with you 100%. The cali tort has been around much longer than the ORA distribution. I am curious what is going to happen with the new ORA oregon torts when they get more heavily distributed. My biggest point was that the oregon and cali/ORA grow at much different rates.

BTW, you can come through any time for a tank viewing ;)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10233263#post10233263 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justin74
Tank viewing? Or tank drooling?

:lol2:

Thanks!


-Justin

If you drool, please bring over a towel. If not, my dog will lick it up. :)
 
Here are my cali torts I got from Xia. I would say they are medium to fast.

These are pics of when I first got them, powered by 2-150w 10k and 4-39w T5 actinics

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Here are recent pics of them powered by 2-250w 10k, 4-54w T5 actincs were off.

This one is near the bottom by the sand with medium flow
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This one is up top with high flow, notice with the high flow all the branches seem to be fusing together
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Here are some Austera torts I can never get a good pic of they are so dark with bright tips. They are at the top also...very slow growers.
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