lightning Clown
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cet98
"feed ur reef...feed it!"
went to a breeder by the name of Matt Pedersen....
here is his blog: "The Lightning Project"
an interesting read IMO
here is his blog: "The Lightning Project"
an interesting read IMO
davocean
Active member
What a lot of needless drama in that link that would have been nice if he edited that crud out.
I know maroons are fussy and all, but it's hard for me to believe that much time and dificulty to pair.
I can't say I disagree w/ the trolls comments, or at least some of them, mainly being distracted, which was kind of obvious when it turned into an ecoxotic/panorama review.
I could only read/bear so much, as far as I could tell the lightning is badly scarred/wounded, and not paired up yet?
I know maroons are fussy and all, but it's hard for me to believe that much time and dificulty to pair.
I can't say I disagree w/ the trolls comments, or at least some of them, mainly being distracted, which was kind of obvious when it turned into an ecoxotic/panorama review.
I could only read/bear so much, as far as I could tell the lightning is badly scarred/wounded, and not paired up yet?
Faye
New member
five million? Wow.
bradleym
Premium Member
Oh good you saw that too. LOL
deangelr
Clown Whisperererer
I can understand the pairing difficulties. He wants to pair the lightning maroon with another PNG maroon. The female he had it paired with died a while back. Because the fish is male, and he only has other male PNG maroons, he is having difficulty. He will have to wait for the lighting to change to female until it will accept a male mate.
The lightning was wounded from jumping out of its part of the tank and into the tank with some angelfish... if i remember correctly, it is now healed up.
I can understand where you coming from about the ecoxotic review part, the one section of the blog I didn't care to read.But you gotta pay the dues when you get a free tank.
davocean
Active member
I didn't catch the angel fish part, but that leads me to wonder why he didn't have a cover on his tank?
I think if I paid that much $$ or had such a rare clown I would have every angle covered for it's safety, but oh well, not my clown.
The part I don't get also is his pairing and purposely throwing in weak clowns he intended on culling back on top the potential mate to add some sort of confusion, or I guess make the potential mate seem more desireable?
I don't know, seems an odd way to pair.
I think I would have prefered the lightning be a female anyways, so maybe it will work out for the better.
I think if I paid that much $$ or had such a rare clown I would have every angle covered for it's safety, but oh well, not my clown.
The part I don't get also is his pairing and purposely throwing in weak clowns he intended on culling back on top the potential mate to add some sort of confusion, or I guess make the potential mate seem more desireable?
I don't know, seems an odd way to pair.
I think I would have prefered the lightning be a female anyways, so maybe it will work out for the better.
deangelr
Clown Whisperererer
Most of the better genes come from the male..? :lolspin: No, this is not accurate, although I like how it sounds..
It is actually preferred for the clown to stay male becuase if another lighting PNG maroon was found, then you would be able to eventually pair the two regardless of sex. If the clown turns female, and another female is found, pairing would be impossible (Maybe just close to impossible as sex reversals have been noted)..
deangelr
Clown Whisperererer
I agree with your logic as well.. If I were Matt I would be patient and let biology take its course. I would leave the lighting in the tank and put a small maroon in a breeder box in the same tank. It would be visible to the lighting but safe from it also. Every couple of weeks I would attempt to pair them.. Eventually the lighting will realize that is ok to turn female and should do so..
All these advaced pairing techniques we see could be pretty risky for the males.
IME with maroon clowns, they are actually one of the easiet clowns to pair. A very large maroon and a very small maroon will pair up instantly. At least they did for me in my 2 tries.
All these advaced pairing techniques we see could be pretty risky for the males.
IME with maroon clowns, they are actually one of the easiet clowns to pair. A very large maroon and a very small maroon will pair up instantly. At least they did for me in my 2 tries.
davocean
Active member
Well I guess that is why I was thinking my first thought, since my last female maroon that was fairly large, killed the first 2 males(and they were tiny) before I could even grab a net.
And this was w/ the breeder box trick.
Now days I can read them a lil better and I totally agree breeder box intro is best.
I've always felt maroons are one of the hardest to pair, but that just been my exp.
And this was w/ the breeder box trick.
Now days I can read them a lil better and I totally agree breeder box intro is best.
I've always felt maroons are one of the hardest to pair, but that just been my exp.
PraireDogging
New member
I've read this somewhere years ago. Something about more of the genetic makeup coming from the male. It could be totally wrong but I have seen that info somewhere.
Rippinfrags
Active member
Productive post yourself. His comment was not off topic by any means. Matt Pederson kinda made you and davocean sound silly in his blog. I know the two of you are very experienced, but your responses did seem like you only read part of the blog.
davocean
Active member
Too bad he's banned and couldn't respond here so we could have an actual conversation.
I guess he didn't like my opinion much, and that really is all it was, and my convo was w/ OP, not him.
If I did what he calls selective reading, it was only because it trailed so far from the topic I was interested in, and I like many others really are just curious about the progress of breeding that clown.
I do agree maroons are tough to pair, and my worst pairing experience did take 3 tries and a couple months, but I was doing the most common method of getting a female to accept a new male, not the other way around.
I do see benefits from both ways, just my opinion(and that's all it is) is if that were my lightning, I would prefer the safer route of letting it become female so it doesn't get torn up or killed, and when you have the offspring you have the opportunity to pair them as you wish, just seems safer to me that way.
I guess he didn't like my opinion much, and that really is all it was, and my convo was w/ OP, not him.
If I did what he calls selective reading, it was only because it trailed so far from the topic I was interested in, and I like many others really are just curious about the progress of breeding that clown.
I do agree maroons are tough to pair, and my worst pairing experience did take 3 tries and a couple months, but I was doing the most common method of getting a female to accept a new male, not the other way around.
I do see benefits from both ways, just my opinion(and that's all it is) is if that were my lightning, I would prefer the safer route of letting it become female so it doesn't get torn up or killed, and when you have the offspring you have the opportunity to pair them as you wish, just seems safer to me that way.
