Lily Dale

I've been in The Rock Crusher too. Mountain bike there a lot. Haven't seen any spooks, specters, or The Prince of Darkness. I did climb up inside the crusher once with my brother. We spooked a large flock of pidgeons which at the very least made us crap our pants. It was like a scene out of The Goonies. I've never run a 4.4, 40, but I would have smoked Usain Bolt that evening.
 
kat- you probably restrained yourself with a reply to some of these posts.

me too :)

you have no idea.

I like the road trip to Lily Dale suggestion. Cully...I commend you for your open mind and the realization that what we can only see with our eyes or understand with our brains is NOT the cut and dried version of "life".

There are some here that won't believe me and I don't care...there's enough documentation to prove what I am about to say, and even then, I don't care...but in 2001 I was told I had "one good year and one bad year left". That I was going to die from the amount of damage that the TA had done to my aorta, the vertebral and carotid arteries. I was almost blind. I could not sleep lying down. I had black outs, fall over, faint from lack of circulation of blood. I was on experimental chemotherapy to kill my immune system. When that failed, my immunologist, cardiologist, internist, oncologist and neurologist all said...let's stop this. They took me off chemo and said...enjoy this next year...please. This is important...my SED rate (Cully, you should know what this is) was off the charts...over 100 is what they said.

That was on a Monday, April 9, 2001. 5 years from the open heart surgery that replaced my aortic valve that my own immune system destroyed. On Thursday, April 12, 2001...I was helping at Bethel Church as an evangelist by the name of Randy Clark was going to be there. I went up for prayer. Before anyone even touched me, I was on the floor. Katherine Mason, a NP at Strong was there...she documented the event. I was out cold for 4 hours....my body temperature was about 104...and was radiating enough heat that the people around me were sweating. When I woke up, I smelled flowers and oranges (this, is my Mom. She passed in November of 1995). The first thing I noticed was that there was no pain in my chest....and that i was lying flat and breathing. Then Katherine sat me up. She pulled out a pen and checked my vision...and it was getting better as we sat there. I went from a pinpoint view with no color to FULL VISION in a matter of seconds. Katherine had her fingers on my carotids. Two days before...there was no pulse there. People were crying...as she reported that the blood flow had started again..there was a very strong pulse.

On Friday, April 13th, 2001...I gave this "testimony" to the people that were in attendance at the conference. Along with the information that I had gone, at Randy's request, to get another blood test for the SED rate that morning.

On Monday, April 16th, 2001...i got a phone call from my doctor to go and have my bloodwork redone because he got a "false" reading. Something went wrong with the test. I asked what the SED rate was. He said it was "5". Said it was impossible for a SED rate to go from over 100 to 5 in less than a week. I went in for another blood test.

On Tuesday, April 17th, 2001...i got another phone call from my doctor requesting that I go to the hospital to have the bloodwork done. The SED rate came back "2". That's what babies have as a SED rate. It's pretty close to brand new blood.

On Wednesday, April 18th, 2001...i went into the hospital for some other tests. All of them showed that not only had the TA stopped it's progression...some of the areas that were destroyed were actually reversing their condition.

For the next 4 years...I traveled to Russia, the Ukraine, Brazil and many places here in the US and spoke to thousands about what is medically documented as a MIRACLE.

To this date...I am in "remission" from TA (because people, doctors, are afraid to admit anything else). Liam, my son, is a miracle as well. But that...is another story.

Thanks for listening. When are we going to Lily Dale??
 
Interesting and inspiring story, Kat. Much of the human body and it's workings are great mysteries; what happened to you could be explained as something other than a miracle. However, I for one believe in things that go deeper than the physical world. For anyone that knows me, I'm about the most skeptical, "show me" type person around. I'm a friekin' engineer after all.

So, I might as well just completely alienate myself here...
The only thing that bothers me about places like Lily Dale is that I believe in good and evil spiritual forces and that we need to be careful not to open ourselves up to the latter.

Ephesians 6:12
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
 
YES. THIS IS A GREAT COMMENT. Thanks, Dan. I completely believe that there are, within the human capability, the ability to draw upon both good and evil forces as well. If you are exceedingly sharp in the discernment area...you can generally tell what is pulling from the latter.

You didn't alienate yourself at all. You can't believe in one without automatically believing in the other.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
 
Yeah I absolutely love it up there. It's just an amazing place to be at and know the history and at one time it was a loud, fiery, busy place with hundreds of men working there non stop for the war. I use to go up and scare the high school kids in the evening who were terrified to begin with and we eventually scared them off. I guess that helps keep the stories going. I did manage to scare an older couple just peaking into the halls...lol. Not purposely but it was hysterical.
 
it's really cool that other people appreciate that place so much. I'm just about to head up there on my bike momentarily.
 
I'm smart enough to know I don't know everything and there just MIGHT be some stuff out there we can't explain.

Socrates once asked his student if he thought that he was smart. The student replied, "I don't know". Socrates said, "Well, I know that I am not smart, therefore, I am smarter than you".

I'd have to say, it'd be pretty arrogant to assume in the entire vastness of our universe, and other universes, that we are the only ones.

Ellie Arroway (Jodi Foster) from the movie, Contact: "I'll tell you one thing about the universe, though. The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space. Right?"

And my 2 cents to anyone who doesen't believe in other life forms in and out of our universe OR spirits, ghosts, after life, mediums, etc.....



Don't be arrogant.


edit: just saw that Cully already said this.
 
"Contact". One of my favorite movies. Some very good lines...including the one posted above. I know what's playing tonight on Netflix!
 
I just watched it last night...I really, really like the part where Haddon is on the space station and tells Ellie that there is another machine...and says, "Wanna take a ride?" Creepy dude. Great line.
 
Kat,
What is a TA? TAA-Thoracoabdominal aortic aneurysm? Or something else? Incidentally, I'm presenting the vasculature of the head and neck this morning on a cadaver I've been working on this summer and I logged on here to take a break in between practicing the presentation. Ugh... I can't escape it. Thanks.
-Andy
 
Kat,
What is a TA? TAA-Thoracoabdominal aortic aneurysm? Or something else? Incidentally, I'm presenting the vasculature of the head and neck this morning on a cadaver I've been working on this summer and I logged on here to take a break in between practicing the presentation. Ugh... I can't escape it. Thanks.
-Andy

Takayasu's Arteritis. But the TAA? that was part of what sent me to the hospital in 1996 for the valve replacement. Glad I didn't wind up on YOUR table....lol.:wildone:
 
well.... this thread has sort of strayed away from the original topic (Lily Dale) but I greatly appreciate all of the posts.

I don't know how some of the things mentioned here tie in with Lily Dale but.... whatever... to each his or her own- I can appreciate all view points.

In any event... and for the few that might understand... I think Lily Dale is calling me. I keep trying to put the (many) strange events that keep happening to me out of my mind but I think it's easier to just go with the flow.

Case in point: I had to return a mower belt to Sears in the mall just now. My brother-in-law is in town and wanted to go along and stop at Barnes and Nobles booksellers. I happened to wander over to B & N's books on sprituality.
A deck of "cards" addressing the subjects of attractiveness and well being happened to be unwrapped and sitting next to the books on spirituality.
I opened it up.
The picture on the very first card was entitled Flow and had a painting of what one might call a reef scene. I almost placed the silly deck of cards back on the shelf but it had no price on it so I asked the clerk to scan it.
13 is my lucky number so I bought it :)
 
In any event... and for the few that might understand... I think Lily Dale is calling me. I keep trying to put the (many) strange events that keep happening to me out of my mind but I think it's easier to just go with the flow.

Definately keep us posted on what you think Gary! :thumbsup: You just never know 'til you try...
 
Gary, I am sure that you will find it an extremely interesting place...and base on your intelligence, i am also sure you will be able to tell fact from fiction. Enjoy.
 
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