Lobster in grocery chain

Yep. I'm sure they can feel physically uncomfortable, but I don't know if they have the fear, sorrow and dread that makes human suffering poignant.
 
Theres always a debate when you try to quantify such things.

P.S. I saw your Dendrobates azureus at the bronx zoo. Stunning.
 
If someone where to jump in on this humane band wagon they wouldnt be arguing for the Lobsters rights they would be arguing for its habitat. More habitat more Lobsters less profit, less lobstering.
If everyone in this sight were to take a boat ride out to the Gulf of Mexico on a chartered fishing boat and see how much in- humanity goes on in a few hours of fishing they might have a new perspective on what is worth fighting for. Personally I eat the H#ll out of some buttered Lobster. They farm raise them just to be eaten its the cycle of life.
What Im talkng about is killing non-sport fish just because its not the targeted catch or cutting a half mile of monfilament off on a hooked Sea turtle or shark just to have it starve to death or suffer miserably. Throwing garbage out just becasue it takes up too much space on deck. Beating an eel to death on the boat side becasue it coils around the hook and wont let go. Leaving fish with their bladders bulging, floating without puncturing the airsack so predator fish have an easy catch on an under limit species. These are just a few things that are way more troubling than lobsters in a glass tank for sale. Most people have no clue this goes on daily and around the clock. I witnessed everything above in less than 8 hrs thats just one boat. Florida has thousands of commercial and chartered vessels. Fight a fight worth fighting I say!!
 
I'm not sure that there is commercial lobster farming. Last I checked it was only seeding.

Other than that well put.

I heard an ecologist compare commercial fishing to throwing a net over the entire savannah, keeping just the lions and throwing everything else back regardless of injury.

Species specific limits and regulations don't work.
 
I have been studying, diving with, keeping, selling and eating lobsters for almost 50 years. My family was in the sea food business. They do not feel pain. They feel something I am sure but any animal that can tear off their own claw or leg and eat it does not feel pain. I am certain fish do not feel pain. I have seen many fish with large chunks torn out of them turn around to eat their own intestines. I once had a hippo tang and a triggerfish tore off it's mouth. The hippo just calmly swam around trying to eat even though he had no jaw. I also have caught many fish, particularilly flounder which almost always swallow the hook. Many times after I throw these fish back because they were too small, I caught them again a few minutes later.
I have been studying fish and crustaceans longer than most researchers and they do not feel pain.
Now cows feel pain but most people have leather jackets.
Paul
 
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