If you go to the Ocean Gallery (NJ) website you can see a photo of the two Lookdowns I caught in Barnegat Bay in August when they were about 2 inches long. I brought them to OG a few days ago. They are now close to 5 inches, and absolutely magnificent, about the best I've had, and I've raised dozens of them. They are voracious feeders, and eat anything. Pellets are a favorite. They also managed to eat a few small fish in my collecting tank, and a couple of cleaner shrimp. Absolutely beautiful, though. I wish I were able to take photos a nicely as they do at OG.