Making Clowns Host With Anemone?
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Which they are "hosting" (improper terminology used; when you stay at a hotel, do you "host" the hotel?)
CStrickland
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Same here.
I would never put them in a little box with a nem or anything, and when I first saw that vid I really expected to hate the idea. I was surprised though. The clowns seem awfully happy in the nem after they get exposed to it. Still not sure if I'd have the heart to push them like that, but it's def not as bad as i thought
BronzeFrog
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I have two young ocellaris clowns who have been been made welcome by my magnifica anemone. The nem was on the move around the tank for a week but is now happy in a spot at the front with a darker area he can 'retreat' to.
I personally don't think that forcing a bond is necessary. They will or they won't. They are living creatures, not living versions of cartoon characters that can be molded to fit the image you want to see.
I personally don't think that forcing a bond is necessary. They will or they won't. They are living creatures, not living versions of cartoon characters that can be molded to fit the image you want to see.
You sure it's a mag? None of mine ever 'retreated' into the shadows - they always moved to the highest, most well lit point in the tank.
BronzeFrog
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Yeah I double checked with my LFS. He is out in the light most of the time but will spend say an hour or so in the live rock 'cave' (it's not really a cave but an area that is somewhat sheltered from both flow and light). The Nem seems to be really happy with this. The clowns are extremely happy with this.
I really don't have any reason to think anything untoward because all the params are spot on, both nem and fish appear healthy and vibrant. Although it could be that the LFS where I got the nem did have him under more subdued lighting than what is in my tank.
I really don't have any reason to think anything untoward because all the params are spot on, both nem and fish appear healthy and vibrant. Although it could be that the LFS where I got the nem did have him under more subdued lighting than what is in my tank.
scrumpto
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I'm going to disagree with some of the advice here and suggest a method I've used with many different A.O. Clowns and many different BTA's. The reason I advocate for encouraging the pairing of the anemones and clowns is the safety of the clownfish. Quite simply, I've noticed my unpaired clowns getting sucked into powerheads while sleeping near them (years ago), being picked on by other fish without the safety of the anemone and not exhibiting normal behavior. These are simply my experiences and thus, my opinion -- others will disagree based on their experiences.
I figured out how to pair the two by accident. I was attempting to catch one of my unpaired clowns in a net. To avoid the net, the clown eventually swam into the safety of the anemone. Smart fish! Her mate followed the next day. These were not wild caught clowns so they'd most likely never seen an anemone but instinct took over.
I could go on but you get the point. Your fish, your tank, your call. Enjoy!
I figured out how to pair the two by accident. I was attempting to catch one of my unpaired clowns in a net. To avoid the net, the clown eventually swam into the safety of the anemone. Smart fish! Her mate followed the next day. These were not wild caught clowns so they'd most likely never seen an anemone but instinct took over.
I could go on but you get the point. Your fish, your tank, your call. Enjoy!
scrumpto
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Thanks! Not really new. I was a member so long ago though that I don't even remember my old username. Has to have been a decade ago at least. I've been in the hobby 18 years now but your polite "welcome" is much appreciated anyway!
Probably not the last word in accurate animal ID :lol:
Can you share a picture of your anemone?
What he said.
CStrickland
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Op doesn't have a hadonni tho. This thread is about a bta and an ocellaris, aren't those natural matches?
champion6sigma
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That's how I was told to do it. Or just simple pvc.
+1
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davocean
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I'm making the point on forcing any clown into any nonnatural match nem which some of those video's are showing.
Some of those people doing those youtube vids are claiming you need to do this for tank bred clowns claiming they don't have the host accepting instinct, which I think is ridiculous, it would take many generations of breeding to remove animals basic instincts.
Most of the people here that focus on nems and clowns especially on that forum believe that BTA's are not natural for occs or percs and that part of the list may need a correction or update
My mentioning of the hadonni was an example at how different each nem is from one another, and it has a stronger sting and stickier tentacles than other host nems, and being the most likely situation of seeing negative results in forcing together.
champion6sigma
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Some clowns never do host regardless if they do or do not have instinct . People's frustrations and desires and complaints of not hosting are solid proof of that.
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champion6sigma
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Babies know how to suck on mom to get food . . . . you still need to place them on the mammary gland for them to eat....
Not sure if perfect analogy.... But it gets point across that maybe the fish needs a little help or nudge ...
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davocean
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Actually no clown hosts.
If you spend some time in the nem forum you would see countless situations where a clown would not accept a non natural host, and then on intro of a natural host they will dive right in almost immediately.
The instinct is still very much there
champion6sigma
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Ultimately a home aquarium is not a natural environment so to me some modifications may be in order ....im sure zoo owners deal with there own form of human manipulation or assistance or intervention to help out zoo animals thrive in captivity ....on a daily basis. I think all of us would agree, that a hosting anemone and clown are happier once the bond is formed....
Just my beliefs , opinions .
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